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  •  Spokane is white-separatist country (11+ / 0-)

    It's more or less indistinguishable from its nearby eastern neighbor, NW Idaho.

    Unapologetic Obama supporter.

    by Red Sox on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 08:22:46 AM PDT

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    •  You don't know what the fuck you're talking about (5+ / 0-)
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      There are two types of republicans, the rich and the stupid. The rich ones strive to keep the stupid ones stupid and the stupid ones strive to keep the rich ones rich.

      by frankzappatista on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 09:04:51 AM PDT

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      •  Yes he does BUT (4+ / 0-)

        the wrong word was indistinguishable. Spokane is a comfy place for racists and you fucking know it if you know anything about Spokane.

        I went to school there Dad still lives there, AND I worked directly with the public for decades from there.
        Its one of the most racist homophobic places around.

        Ever since Obama was elected the racist hysterics from friends and relatives from there are straight out of 1950 Alabama, where I've also lived. Its a different kind of racism too that attracts wannabe overt racists because they feel safe there flying their flag.

        So yeah, indistinguishable is bullshit, and so is your reaction because you know its a fucking hotbed for them and ignored that.

        •  My mother, aunt, uncle and several cousins live (4+ / 0-)

          there.

          It's very conservative - the Lilac City is the polar opposite of the Emerald City on the other side of the state. And some seriously retrograde people live there.

          But you are seriously overstating things.

          "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

          by raptavio on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 11:20:05 AM PDT

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        •  So your relatives grew up there while (1+ / 0-)
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          Tom Foley, one of the most liberal Speakers of the House ever, was elected time after time in the Spokane district. At the same time North Idaho was the support base for Frank Church ad Cecil Andrus. There's plenty of racists and homophobes in San Francisco. I used to listen to KGO talk radio out of San Francisco and judging by the callers the city was loaded with them. They're everywhere and Spokane is no better or worse. To single it out is ridiculous.

          There are two types of republicans, the rich and the stupid. The rich ones strive to keep the stupid ones stupid and the stupid ones strive to keep the rich ones rich.

          by frankzappatista on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 12:33:10 PM PDT

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          •  Foley was run out (1+ / 0-)
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            by the same racist relatives of mine who supported Republican George Nethercut who lied and ran for more terms than he said, and they ran off West the gay Republican mayor.
            Spokane has changed a lot politically for the worse and the economy there is a graveyard.
            It is much much worse for black folks who live there, than if they lived 275 miles west and you know it. Why is that ?Seattle and Spokane aren't even close to being in the same universe for overt racism. Can you tell me why Spokane is a comfortable area for them while other nearby cities are VERY DIFFERENT ? Maybe thats why when people think Spokane they think aryans nation/richard butler and the rest.
            Spokane didn't have a Hells Angels chapter there before either, but they've been flying their flag on east Sprague for years.

            Too many facts say you are missing some in regards to that town. You can't defend its history of overt racism.

        •  Why is this the subject of conversation (2+ / 0-)
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          As opposed to the death of an old WWII vet?

          http://callatimeout.blogspot.com/ Jesus Loves You.

          by DAISHI on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 01:15:36 AM PDT

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    •  I'm not going to say there isn't racism (14+ / 0-)

      in Spokane but it's no more racist than Calgary, Alberta or your average town in Maine. Same for north Idaho.

      If you're talking about Aryan Nations, pfffft. A handful of nutjobs that the media hyped up. We had no choice but to live with them. Their parades in Coeur de Alene drew like fifty people.

      Tell us where you're from and I'm sure we can turn up some white separatist types in you're backyard.

      There are two types of republicans, the rich and the stupid. The rich ones strive to keep the stupid ones stupid and the stupid ones strive to keep the rich ones rich.

      by frankzappatista on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 09:14:07 AM PDT

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      •  Your not you're (0+ / 0-)

        There are two types of republicans, the rich and the stupid. The rich ones strive to keep the stupid ones stupid and the stupid ones strive to keep the rich ones rich.

        by frankzappatista on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 09:14:52 AM PDT

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      •  You're being characteristically pissy to Red Sox. (3+ / 0-)
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        The white supremacist who pleaded guilty to attempting to bomb a Martin Luther King Day march in Spokane, Wash., was sentenced Tuesday. The FBI says the story is a cautionary tale about the threat of 'lone wolf' attacks.
        http://www.csmonitor.com/...

        The only places where white supremacists are a majority of the population are their little cult compounds and ghost towns in places like central Nevada. They're almost always a minority. Not news. It only takes a few to make trouble.

        Governments care only as much as their citizens force them to care. Nothing changes unless we change -- George Monbiot.

        by Nulwee on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 10:14:00 AM PDT

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    •  Spokane is noticeably different from (2+ / 0-)
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      the surrounding area, particularly some of the North Idaho fringe groups.

      True, it's only about 5% African-American (87% white, 8% various other races).

      But the bulk of Spokane forms the one Blue legislative district in Eastern Washington (3rd LD, voted 59% Obama in 2008, 57% in 2012, and represented in the state Leg by 3 Democrats).

      And FWIW, Spokane had a black mayor in 1982-86, Jim Chase, elected with 62% of the vote after two terms on the City Council.

    •  Yeah because Boston is know for it's tolerance (0+ / 0-)

      Glass Houses and all......

      If you think I am being hyperbolic type "the most racist city in America" and look at the results.

      Or take Barry Bond's or Joel Ward's opinion on the subject:

      In an interview with the Boston Globe, Bonds was asked a cream puff question about whether he would consider finishing his career in Beantown. Bonds shook his head and said, "Boston is too racist for me. I couldn’t play there. That’s been going on ever since my dad (Bobby) was playing baseball. I can’t play like that. That’s not for me, brother." When the reporter countered that the racial climate has changed in Boston, Bonds responded, "It ain’t changing. It ain’t changing nowhere."
      BOSTON — The game-winning goal that Joel Ward of the Washington Capitals scored against the Boston Bruins in overtime on Wednesday did two things, both embarrassing to Boston. It knocked the reigning champion Bruins out of the N.H.L. playoffs, and it unleashed a flurry of Twitter slurs against Mr. Ward that summoned an old, familiar image of this city as a den of racist white sports fans.

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