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  •  AWOL, disobeying orders...citation please? (3+ / 0-)
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    rserven, Wee Mama, DaveinBremerton
    The USBD is not your typical federal prison.  All the inmates are or were members of the military.  Most of them are there for the "crimes" of excessive AWOLs, desertion, dereliction of duty, or disobeying a direct order.  These are crimes that would get you fired if you were not in the military.
    I saw your mention of working at the USDB, but do you have any public data to back up that statement?

    I found a 2002 reference (a bit dated, I know) here which cites USDB statistics as follows:

    * Of 436 inmates, more than 10% were on death row (5), serving life without parole (5), or serving life sentences (46).

    * The average sentence being served was 18.8 years.

    * 88% of inmates were imprisoned for crimes against persons.

    * 51% of inmates were imprisoned for sexual crimes.

    * 6% of inmates were imprisoned for drug crimes.

    To get from these 2002 numbers to what you describe as low-level "crimes that would get you fired if you were not in the military" would seem to be a HUGE swing in demographics in a relatively short time.

    Current media reports  state that the average sentence currently being served is 19 years, and that the USDB is reserved for those convicted at court martial and facing at least a 10-year sentence.  Those are not the low-level crimes you described.

    The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

    by wesmorgan1 on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 08:30:25 PM PDT

    •  My personal experience... (7+ / 0-)

      ...during the Vietnam Era.  It may have changed somewhat since then.

    •  I would guess times have changed (1+ / 0-)
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      All of my military experience (1981-2006) is with the all-volunteer force.  By the late 1980's the military--especially the Air Force and Navy--had become a "1-mistake force" and significant discipline problems such as DUI, financial irresponsibility, AWOL, etc. result in Article 15 punishment and administrative discharge.  Bad behavior is not allowed to continue long enough for it to become a court martial offense.

      Of the handful of people whom I've known who went to court martial, one (stole a car while drunk) got less than 5 years and never ended up in Leavenworth.  Same with one other (attempted online hook-up with a minor).  My buddy who disabled someone in a fight got 7 years at Leavenworth.  A captain I used to work for got one hell of a long sentence for rape, adultery, and charges that amounted to sexual slavery (he was raping his ex-wife, who was his current wife's sister...this is one bastard whom I hope died in prison).  One other long stretch in Leavenworth was another rapist (he married a mentally retarded woman and used her as a sex slave).

      I can think of 20 or 30 DUI, drug possession, AWOL, fail-to-go (a type of disobedience) and similar offenses that ended in Article 15 NJP that never involved more than base detention and administrative separation.  None of these went to court martial; they were the equivalent of getting fired.  Court martial is really not that common of an occurrence.  In 25 years I was a witness at only one, and never served on the panel (the equivalent of the jury).

      "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win". Mohandas K. Gandhi

      by DaveinBremerton on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 12:08:43 AM PDT

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