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  •  Would they? (6+ / 0-)
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    I think most legal scholars would agree that direct violation of the Constitution would fit the bill, however.
    Please do feel free to cite and quote some "legal scholars" who have said this, along with their credentials and qualifications.

    Because it seems to me that those "legal scholars" would be opening the door for every President who ever signed or executed a law that was later declared unconstitutional to be subject to impeachment for it.

    This piece seems to be almost wishing for the impeachment of President Obama. Why is that, exactly? Do you believe he deserves it?

    "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

    by JamesGG on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 07:44:41 PM PDT

    •  Yes, and while diarist is at it (0+ / 0-)

      maybe he or she could explain what the "direct violation" of the Constitution has been.

      All I've seen evidence of are accidental collection of Americans' data without warrant. Do we fire the mayor of a city when the police execute a warrant on the wrong house?

      •  Criminal Conspiracy ring a bell? (0+ / 0-)

        He approved and directed the murders not only of US citizens without trial or tangible evidence, but of countless innocent people in three different countries that we know of.  

        Would we fire the mayor of a city when police start shooting people in the street who happened to be in the vicinity of bank holdup?  Yes, I think so.

        "There is no confusion like the confusion of a simple mind." F. Scott Fitzgerald

        by upperatmos on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 11:13:10 AM PDT

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        •  Every president in the history of this country (0+ / 0-)

          at a time of military action is similarly responsible for the deaths of civilians. Are you honestly arguing that Washington, Lincoln, and FDR were also part of criminal conspiracies to murder?

          Come on.

          And, by the way, innocent bystanders are also tragically killed sometimes by police, and no, we don't try them for murder. Murder requires specific intent.

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