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  •  Why impeach? (2+ / 0-)
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    You think another president would be different?

    There is a lot of baggage that come with that office these days and the odds are if you make it that far you go along with the program.

    The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function [Albert A. Bartlett]

    by fToRrEeEsSt on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 07:57:16 PM PDT

    •  Great point. (0+ / 0-)

      I definitely didn't want to suggest that the next President (regardless of party) might be different, and I have no illusions that endorsement of the military - industrial - surveillance complex would have greatly differed depending on who was elected.  

      That's a topic for a different diary.

      My point was that if team R is going to talk the talk, this is their chance to walk the walk.  When they choose not to push this issue, it will hopefully be obvious to the electorate how laughable they've become.  Then again, one could likely throw a similar stone regarding the Democratic party.   Heck if I know.

      You think it's hot? Imagine what it would be like if global warming really existed!

      by JSc on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 08:13:42 PM PDT

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      •  No body takes them seriously not even themselves.. (3+ / 0-)

        Or do you think a congress that accomplishes little, but the few things it really wants, is serious?

        The Republics made some strange bed fellows over last 40 years and now the sleep with fleas. Between the tea party and the extreme religious right, the 'effective small government' and 'fiscal conservatives' have been practically pushed out of the party. You can not govern through a bizarre mix of Nihilism and the Rapture as we have been seeing of late.

        I very socially liberal and moderate in other ways, but I long for the days of the old Republican party where education wasn't a dirty word and people like Buckley could present conservative views in a way others could understand, maybe not agree with, but clear coherent thought.

        There is nothing about the modern republican party to take seriously except all the damage they are doing.

        The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function [Albert A. Bartlett]

        by fToRrEeEsSt on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 08:29:54 PM PDT

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      •  no president will ever be impeached (0+ / 0-)

        for overstepping boundaries of any kind when it comes to control of the population.
        Never happened, never will.
        It is them against us, and they know that far better than we do.

        Last full month in which the average daily temperature did not exceed twentieth-century norms: 2/1985 - Harper's Index, 2/2013

        by kamarvt on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 05:15:04 AM PDT

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