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  •  Stopping Pie Fights (6+ / 0-)

    It seems to me, obviously only from my own observations, that many arguments share a common tipping point into pie fight. It has become clear that the arguers will never agree on a particular point; and one arguer more or less states that, and begins to disengage. But the other arguer says something playgroundish, like (I paraphrase), "Well, you obviously have no answer to my last riposte, so Q.E.D., bitches!" The more mature arguer has trouble letting the argument end on that note, so s/he makes one more comment, which receives a similar reply. This quickly devolves into a version of "are too/am not," which will often continue until someone has the good sense to add "infinity."

    I think it is extremely difficult, when we are discussing issues that inflame passions on both sides, to say, "We disagree so entirely that further argument would be pointless," and then stop replying. It's hard to let someone who is so entirely in the wrong (in our view) have the last word.

    Perhaps a positive guideline might be to encourage people to rec the comments of those who decide to withdraw . . . ?

    "So, who should I root for? America, or one of those countries I learned about at the Food Court?" Counting down to Futurama's finale . . .

    by IamGumby on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 05:35:08 AM PDT

    •  Nicely put, IamGumby. (4+ / 0-)

      I rec'd the diary because I thought it might -- might -- lead to some constructive discussion, despite its tone.  I see, mostly, not... but your comment was worth the trip down here to the (momentary) bottom of the comments.

      Isn't it time for the US Govt to give Leonard Peltier back his freedom? ** "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

      by Yasuragi on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 07:02:59 AM PDT

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      •  Thanks Yasuragi (3+ / 0-)

        I really do have to watch my tendency to use a somewhat flippant tone, which is often . . . well, unhelpful. :) I think that this is the practice that I will start trying to use: focusing on uprating folks who contribute to maintaining civility in fraught/passionate discussions, and doing my best to forget that I recently became one of the wielders of HR powers.

        "So, who should I root for? America, or one of those countries I learned about at the Food Court?" Counting down to Futurama's finale . . .

        by IamGumby on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 07:44:53 AM PDT

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        •  An excellent policy. I'm a chronic recommender. (0+ / 0-)

          Selective, but basically I'll rec anything I consider a good, thoughtful comment that contributes to the conversation.  In fact, one year I'd given the most mojo on the site... which made me kinda feel like a whore... but then I rethought that attitude.  It's definitely better to give than receive, and if the good fight is being fought, I'm mostly content to sit back, read, and rec.

          ...Which is not to say I won't gladly slam an HR on someone being a... Richard.  Y'know?

          Isn't it time for the US Govt to give Leonard Peltier back his freedom? ** "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

          by Yasuragi on Sat Aug 24, 2013 at 11:37:31 PM PDT

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