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  •  Yeah...and are still involved with laws today. (1+ / 0-)
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    Villanova Rhodes

    My synagogue was recently actively involved in phone banking for the our states dram act and marriage equality...just because I believe in our stances doesnt make us equally guilty of participating in politics as a congregation.

    •  according to current law both those things are OK (1+ / 0-)
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      Villanova Rhodes

      that kind of advocacy is not partisan politics, even though both liberal causes are associated with the Democratic party.

      Politics is OK.  only partisan politics is against the law.

      i have always STRONGLY objected to churches advocating for specific candidates or parties, and there are conservative churches who break that law constantly.

      but when a liberal church like All Saints Pasadena gets harassed by the IRS just for some anti-war sermons, I do not think that is right.

      issue oriented advocacy MUST be part of authentic Christian church work because caring for the poor, sustaining the widow and orphan, welcoming the stranger, feeding the hungry, human treatment for prisoners, etc. are all part of the gospel imperative.

      I want progressive churches to do MORE to encourage people to be aware of how liberal faith DEMANDS they get involved with those issues and vote accordingly.

      I agree with others upthread that changing the law will not impact conservative churches because they are in conservative areas where it will not be enforced.  I strongly suspect that such a change will hurt churches who are doing positive work than it will hurt the right wing nut jobs or the megapastors.  And this at a time when folk on the Christian left is finally managing to break through and get our voices heard again for the first time in fifty years.  Bad idea and I hope all liberals and progressives oppose it, whether they are believers or atheists.

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      by TrueBlueMajority on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 09:59:20 AM PDT

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      •  And this isn't what Van Hollen is going after (7+ / 0-)

        He is specifically suing for the IRS to enforce the 501(c)4 law that requires "social welfare organizations" to be exclusively engaged in their social welfare mission, not in political activity.

        501(c)4 orgs get to withhold their donor lists, who don't get tax deductions, but the 501(c)4 itself doesn't pay any taxes.

        501(c)3 donations ARE deductible by the donors, and the list of donors is public information.

    •  novelworm - what your congregation did was (1+ / 0-)
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      johnny wurster

      completely acceptable under current IRS guidelines. Churches, synagogues, mosques and other communities of worship have broad latitude regarding issue advocacy.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 11:48:56 AM PDT

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