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  •  Sometimes no choice is as bad as a poor choice... (3+ / 0-)
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    Justanothernyer, Lawrence, NYFM

    Our failure to act on this sooner has left us with a situation where we have to choose between backing Hezbolla or Al Qaeda...

    NOT acting leaves us letting Hezbolla or Al Qaeda to win Syria.

    If we had acted sooner, we would instead be facing a choice between a dictator and a popular uprising...

    But the failure to act has left us with a choice between Evil Inc and Evil TM...

    The roaches always win if you turn out the lights.

    by Jyotai on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 10:53:24 AM PDT

    •  Yeah, what the hell good it "preemtive war" (2+ / 0-)
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      if we can't use it...

      Let's bomb the shit of everyone sooner than later!!! Maybe that's what Kerry wants to say...

      "WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY FOX NEWS IS JOURNALISM"

      by FakeNews on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 11:00:04 AM PDT

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      •  Well... (2+ / 0-)
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        Lawrence, Just Bob

        If you take the stance of ALWAYS avoiding action... that doesn't really get you anywhere good.

        We were too soon to act in Vietnam and Iraq... but we were too slow to act in WWII, Rwanda, the former Yugoslavia, and now this.

        - Not all of these are our fights, sure...

        But we still get left dealing with the consequences...

        We might have no dog in this show in Syria... but we WILL be negatively impacted by having (another) nation in the middle east in the hands of Al Qaeda, or Hezbolla.

        Sitting on our hands while it was a fight about freedom has let it become something else...

        I'm fairly anti-war, but was that wise?

        Taking ab absolutely pacifist stance to everything can be as bad as taking an absolutely hawkish stance to everything.

        The roaches always win if you turn out the lights.

        by Jyotai on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 11:32:01 AM PDT

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    •  You know, you're probably more or less right (0+ / 0-)

      about this.

      The only time for a relatively "painless" liberal intervention would, indeed, have been at the very beginning, before it turned into a civil/sectarian style war.

      This was my great fear in the beginning and Russia should hang its head in shame for propping up Assad instead of putting heavy-duty pressure on him to reform.

      At this point, I'm not really sure what could or should be done anymore, other than supporting refugees, arming the Kurds to stave off Al Qaeda-linked Al Nusra, and, possibly, arming the most moderate elements of the FSA.

      "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

      by Lawrence on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 11:43:53 AM PDT

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