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  •  The change in administration certainly does.... (1+ / 0-)
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    protect them from the charge of hypocrisy.

    As it turns out, Barack Obama and John Kerry do not bear responsibility for Ronald Reagan's foreign policy.

    And the silly claim that white phosphorus is the equivalent of sarin gas needs to be killed off in an Geneva-approved method.

    Art is the handmaid of human good.

    by joe from Lowell on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 02:00:43 PM PDT

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    •  Silly claim? (4+ / 0-)

      Two different chemical weapons, both are horrible deaths.

      Nothing fixes a thing so intensely in the memory as the wish to forget it. - Michel de Montaigne

      by Sandy on Signal on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 02:10:51 PM PDT

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      •  Link to the Geneva Accords on White Phosphorus? (0+ / 0-)

        Chemical weapons are singled out under international law for very good reason.

        Art is the handmaid of human good.

        by joe from Lowell on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 02:12:34 PM PDT

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        •  I believe it is covered... (3+ / 0-)

          protocol III of the Geneva convention on use of incendiaries on civilian populations or enemy solders in civilian populated areas.

          Still I bet the distinctions between administration will surely be acknowledged by the people of other nations and be given the significance they deserve.

          We Glory in war, in the shedding of human blood. What fools we are.

          by delver rootnose on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 02:25:40 PM PDT

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          •  Any weapons are forbidden against civilians or... (0+ / 0-)

            civilian-protected areas. What this has to do with the claim that White Phosphorus is a chemical weapon continues to be less than perfectly clear.

            And you can stop pretending to speak for anyone but yourself any time now.

            Art is the handmaid of human good.

            by joe from Lowell on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 03:11:45 PM PDT

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          •  SPOILER WARNING: I've been watching Newsroom (0+ / 0-)

            and I realize that it's fiction, but this season's main plot regards possible US use of chemical weapons and the characters make a clear distinction between wp and sarin, the latter being a war crime, the former not (depends on how it's used, I think).  Even the pure progressive journalist character that is most determined to prove the US used sarin doesn't consider the use of wp to be a war crime (again, depending on how it's used).

            Like I said, I know it's fiction, but Aaron Sorkin typically bases his fictional plots on reality.  If all use  of wp  were a war crime, I doubt Sorkin would have had his plot say otherwise.

    •  Do you honestly *not* know that the use of white (0+ / 0-)

      phosphorus is specifically prohibited by the Conventions?

      Enough fossil fuel remains on Earth to warm it 6 degrees C by 2100 AD if it is all used. A +6 C planet will only sustain half a billion humans. Human population will rise to 9 billion by 2050. Any questions?

      by davidincleveland on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 05:36:58 PM PDT

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