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  •  This is an unsustainable argument. (3+ / 0-)
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    If NCLB is foolish, which it is, it can't be bad to grant waivers from its foolishness.

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 06:27:33 PM PDT

    •  The act was seriously flawed from the beginning (4+ / 0-)

      It tried to blame education for the failures of national and state economic and social policies.
      It should be scrapped.
      We should think about what our educational problems and challenges really are--not just that we don't score as well as other countries (no one ever points out that other countries' results may be skewed because of their own educational policies)--and start over.

    •  Unfortunately, Rich (0+ / 0-)

      it is not all that cut and dried. Do you know how to find the Special Ed classrooms in many LA City Schools? Look for the bungalows the farthest from the flagpole.

      Some waivers undoubtedly mitigate NCLB foolishness, some will increase it. You have to look at the specific cases.

      We should outsource our educational policy to the French or the Finns. Someone who has a working system, anyway. We surely don't.

      "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

      by Orinoco on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 07:12:01 PM PDT

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      •  About your second paragraph (1+ / 0-)
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        I don't know if that's true.  I think all waivers mitigate the foolishness.

        You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

        by Rich in PA on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 07:20:14 PM PDT

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        •  I'd like to think so too. (0+ / 0-)

          But there are people running districts and schools within districts that wish special needs kids would just GO AWAY. Sad but true.

          "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

          by Orinoco on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 02:27:37 PM PDT

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    •  sadly not true Rich (1+ / 0-)
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      It depends on how individual schools and states will deal with the waiver requirements...one of which is that a certain percentage of teacher evaluation will be based on "student achievement data". How is that defined? For most districts the only data available will be standardized test scores. Do we really want to go further down that path?

      Furthermore, many states (California included) are implementing an entirely new curriculum this year aka Common Core. Common Core IS going to be better for kids and has much more emphasis on critical thinking skills. In regards to standardized test scores though - scores are going to drop dramatically for the first few years (makes sense if you think about it really).

      I am a staunch D - I work local, state and national campaigns EVERY election cycle (it is literally part of my job) but when it comes to education - Obama isn't our ally. The fact that he appointed Arne Duncan over Linda Darling Hammond as Sec of Ed was a DEAD give away. Duncan is a poster child for the corporate model being applied to education.

      "There can be no peace so long as hunger and want are found among millions of working people and the few, who make up the employing class, have all the good things in life." Preamble to IWW Constitution

      by ca union goon on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 07:48:26 PM PDT

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