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  •  Starbucks comes in for a lot of criticism.... (2+ / 0-)
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    anana, OhioNatureMom

    People often dislike the chain for their sheer size and for pushing out, smaller, locally-owned coffee shops. A lot of this criticism has failed to take into account that Starbucks almost always pays a better wage and benefits than the indies.

    •  Well... (3+ / 0-)
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      Cedwyn, SixSixSix, Nailbanger

      A lot of the indies they pushed out where owned by the old geezer behind the register and his kid working the machine...
      ... and the cat sitting on top of the esoteric bookshelf...

      Yes, just as many were staffed by underpaid local college kids with unusual facial piercings... ( :p )

      But most of the places they threw under the buss were not chains or franchises.

      And almost all of them served better coffee... Some of them even used real coffee beans...

      The roaches always win if you turn out the lights.

      by Jyotai on Tue Aug 27, 2013 at 04:00:08 PM PDT

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      •  So compete on better coffee.... (2+ / 0-)
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        OhioNatureMom, arabian

        It's not like Starbucks is any cheaper than an indy. My beef was with neighborhoods in San Francisco trying to keep Starbucks from opening up stores on principle. Starbucks is a legal business, and if a location is zoned for a business of it's type, trying to prevent them from opening is lousy. If the indy shops were so much better, or cheaper, or had more local charm, or attracted better workers, then the free market should sort things out.

        There are some indy coffee shops I love, and I would never choose Starbucks over them. Plenty of others, though, have bad coffee. Starbucks offers a consistent product, brewed sufficiently strong, which can be a problem in some areas.

        •  Say that to Walmart (0+ / 0-)

          Because Walmart is also a "legal business" but seems to run out every small business in its path on the way in (and then out and then down the street to destroy more land and more small businesses).

          Starbucks buys out (OH! sorry - "acquires") its competition and often times demands no other coffee shops be in its immediate area. Don't be fooled by sweet talk. My wife and I both worked for Starbucks for many years and collectively know more than we ever wanted about the concerned-community-company facade that is Starbucks.

          Ask Howard about unions...

          Strange but not a stranger.

          by jnww on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 10:45:53 AM PDT

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