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  •  The South should have been starved (5+ / 0-)

    after the Civil War. Then re-settled. I truly believe that.

    I resent that. I demand snark, and overly so -- Markos Moulitsas.

    by commonmass on Wed Aug 28, 2013 at 07:42:29 AM PDT

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    •  one reason they don't respect us; we were too nice (6+ / 0-)

      We bent over backwards to accommodate the "planters" before the war, determined to show that we could all live and work together in the spirit of brotherhood.  Like barbarians in any time and place, they took it as weakness and demanded more and more and more, confident that if talks broke down, they could beat those lily-livered codfish in a war with one hand tied behind their backs.

      In any other war in history, the leaders and perpetrators of a failed rebellion would have been killed or sold into slavery themselves.  Sherman was a piker compared to how the Mongols treated those who defied them.  Imagine mass executions of Southern military and civilian leadership: Davis, Lee, Jackson, Forrest, all the others ... but instead like the weaksauce Yankees we are, we respected them - indeed we praised their martial spirit and devotion to their home and cause (even if we threw in that we hated the cause) - and let them surrender with honor, retire in dignity, start the Klan, and hold the country hostage in Washington.  Yes, we invited the defeated rebel tribe to take a seat of power in our own capital!

      Imagine the plantation owners being forcibly dispossessed: stripped of their land and turned out onto the streets with their families to beg or enslaved themselves.  Imagine all the Southern Baptist churches getting forcibly reintegrated with the American Baptist hierarchy, complete with dour Yankee preachers shipped down to take over.

      I think the South still doesn't respect us.  We keep giving them money hand over fist; we keep letting them throw their baby fits whenever the big fast world gets too close.  Like the Japanese who were never "denazified" after WWII, they have not changed as a people.  It's more than that they're still racist; they're still adversarial, still committed to the idea that the strong should dominate the weak, and still perceive anything other than domination as proof of weakness.  They still strut, still live in their narcissistic fantasy world where they are the innocent and honorable heroes beset upon by the spiteful forces of evil at all sides, and still expect to be deferred to because "By God, we're man enough to demand it!"

    •  We tried that later on in Germany after WW I (0+ / 0-)

      That's what got us WW II and the Holocaust.

      BTW, wishing death on people, even retroactively, is HRable.

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Wed Aug 28, 2013 at 03:02:56 PM PDT

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