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  •  I don't agree (11+ / 0-)

    with a single thing you just said.  In fact I think it's ridiculous.

    An occupation, whatever its objective, can lead to many more deaths, and once begun will set a series chain of events in motion.  We are currently in a quagmire in Afghanistan that has strained our military to the breaking point after its occupation of Iraq.  That's not an idle comment, it's a fact.

    I am sick to death of the US being the world's policeman.  Rather than invading every country in the world that has a problem with a dictator, the world community should step up (possibly in the form of the UN) and handle some of this.  As it stands now, people demand action and then blame us for whatever goes wrong.

    Screw that.  Let some of the countries in Europe take responsibility for once.  If they are willing to go, I'm willing to support them.

    Ignorance more frequently begets confidence then knowledge. Charles Darwin

    by martianexpatriate on Tue Aug 27, 2013 at 11:41:18 PM PDT

    •  Europeans remember WWII. (2+ / 0-)
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      People in the U.S. just don't comprehend this, but Europe was deeply and profoundly traumatized by the unbelievable carnage and destruction of WWII. Just to spell it out, most European cities were heavily damaged by aerial bombing, artillery, and brutal ground combat. Some were virtually destroyed. Not even mentioning the Holocaust, WWII was a horrendous catastrophe for Europe's civilians. The memory of this is so traumatic that ongoing and well-documented civilian massacres in their own Balkan backyard was not enough to overcome European revulsion at military action.  

      So European forces will never, ever intervene with ground troops in Syria. They understand far too well what that really means. Lots of dead people and lots of destroyed homes.  

      •  Tragically, I think Euros DON'T remember WWII. (0+ / 0-)

        Remember the Balkan War? Srebrenica? It only stopped when the USA finally hit the Serbs with air strikes. Under the banner of NATO, yes, but it was mostly US pilots and US planes. The European powers would've let a whole cascade of Srebrenicas happen.

        And it's quite an irony that the European Union was originally supposed to contain Germany; but it's turned out that using the mechanisms of the European Union, Germany has managed to subjugate much of Europe more securely than it could ever manage with the German Army. Ask the unemployed Greeks, Irish, Spanish, Portuguese, and Italians how well the EU is containing German hubris.

        "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

        by HeyMikey on Wed Aug 28, 2013 at 07:10:06 AM PDT

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        •  What? (0+ / 0-)

          Germany is an economic power, they worked hard, and with that comes power (just like the US throws it's weight around). The other counties are economic basket cases due mostly because of bad domestic policies, such as having a retirement age of 55. What I remember about wwII is how late the US showed up.

    •  There is no suggestion of boots on the ground. (0+ / 0-)

      "The war on drugs followed by the war on terror has eliminated protections we have had since the Magna Carta." -Horace Boothroyd III

      by mookins on Wed Aug 28, 2013 at 07:41:37 AM PDT

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    •  Who said anything about occupation (0+ / 0-)

      "See? I'm not a racist! I have a black friend!"

      by TheHalfrican on Wed Aug 28, 2013 at 07:51:22 AM PDT

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