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  •  Well if more Christians really spent the time (2+ / 0-)
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    to delve into how the whole resurrection/salvation/Jesus Christ narrative was put together, and by whom, they could spend less time being insulted when others bring this up.

    •  What made you lose your faith? Because you're (0+ / 0-)

      WAY too bitter and insulting to gotten where you are any other way.

      And I asked the diarist a question in the original comment.  You can answer it too.

      "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

      by zenbassoon on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:39:42 PM PDT

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      •  Was this the question? (1+ / 0-)
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        What do you have faith in?

        And I do not speak in religious terms here.  What do you have faith in?

        Do you believe in anything unseen and unproven but you are yet convinced exists?

        If so, I'll answer it. Of course we all have "faith", if by faith you mean the belief that more things exist than those that we can currently perceive at any present moment. For instance, if I throw a frisbee across the room, I have "faith" that my dog will go running after it.

        But notice what this faith is premised on: the large number of times I have in past thrown a frisbee, and watched my dog run after it. Religious faith is a bit different because it's not based on any kind of reliable past evidence or experience. The opposite in fact: the claims of religious faith actually contradict what we observe about the world.

        Apparently nothing will ever teach these people that the other 99 percent of the population exist. —George Orwell

        by ukit on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 08:13:18 PM PDT

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        •  That's not what I was asking. (0+ / 0-)

          I'm asking whether there is ANYTHING at all you believe WITHOUT those anchors of past experience or evidence or ANY kind of proof at all?

          "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

          by zenbassoon on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 09:05:34 PM PDT

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          •  I can't think of any. What would be an example (1+ / 0-)
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            of that? Everything we "know" is based on a past experience of some kind, even if it's second hand knowledge from someone else.

            Apparently nothing will ever teach these people that the other 99 percent of the population exist. —George Orwell

            by ukit on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 09:41:30 PM PDT

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