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    manipulated by others without violence.

    - use of date-rape drugs
    - "have sex with me or you lose your job"
    - "have sex with me or I'll forget you paid your rent"

    It is not only a teacher-student relationship that can create this kind of disparity in power.

    You are fortunate not to have much imagination in this area.

    Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

    by elfling on Wed Aug 28, 2013 at 02:14:45 PM PDT

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      - use of date-rape drugs
      Find me a case where someone coherently consented after being drugged without their knowledge.
      - "have sex with me or you lose your job"
      This is actually not a crime believe it or not. It's a civil tort that you can sue the offender over. In any case it involves consenting sex.
      - "have sex with me or I'll forget you paid your rent- use of date-rape drugs
      This is extortion which is a crime, but it's the extortion thing that makes it criminal, not the sex aspect.

      The things you mention are various civil and criminal offenses and sleazy behavior, but they are not rape because they involve the consent of both parties. Consent under (nonviolent) duress is still consent!

      (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
      Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

      by Sparhawk on Wed Aug 28, 2013 at 02:37:23 PM PDT

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