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  •  I'm not telling anyone to not do it... (2+ / 0-)
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    ... just that I wouldn't because it hasn't been proven to work.

    •  Hmm....for me it's what I call traditional (5+ / 0-)

      medicine. Something that has been used for thousands of years with good results. (Even the AMA says so)

      I am much more leery of allopathic medicine which to me is too new, too unproven and can cause real damage.

      Tracy B Ann - technically that is my signature. If I had Bill Gates money, I'd buy Detroit.

      by ZenTrainer on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 09:33:29 AM PDT

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      •  Not sure the AMA says that... (2+ / 0-)
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        ... did a search of their website and found "Summaries and Recommendations of Council on Scientific Affairs Reports 1997 AMA Annual Meeting – page 17" which discusses alternative medicine (which includes acupuncture per the report)...

        The scope of alternative medicine is broad, with widespread use among the American public of a long list of treatments and practices such as acupuncture, homeopathy, relaxation techniques, and herbal remedies.
        and
        There is little evidence to confirm the safety or efficacy of most alternative therapies. Much of the information currently known about these therapies makes it clear that many have not been shown to be efficacious. Well-designed, stringently controlled research should be done to evaluate the efficacy of alternative therapies.
        Link to the Search Results

        Again, this is how I make my decisions. If you don't necessarily care if the treatment hasn't really been proven using the scientific method, go for it! The mind is a powerful thing and the placebo effect is real, perhaps that's all that is needed.

    •  ...Kalex, research (as in research you'd (5+ / 0-)

      ...(accept as "scientific") goes on all the time. Here's a list of what is currently known...scientifically about Acupuncture via the World Health Organization:

      1. Diseases, symptoms or conditions for which acupuncture has been proved-through controlled trials-to be an effective treatment:

      Adverse reactions to radiotherapy and/or chemotherapy
      Allergic rhinitis (including hay fever)
      Biliary colic
      Depression (including depressive neurosis and depression following stroke)
      Dysentery, acute bacillary
      Dysmenorrhoea, primary
      Epigastralgia, acute (in peptic ulcer, acute and chronic gastritis, and gastrospasm)
      Facial pain (including craniomandibular disorders)
      Headache
      Hypertension, essential
      Hypotension, primary
      Induction of labour
      Knee pain
      Leukopenia
      Low back pain
      Malposition of fetus, correction of
      Morning sickness
      Nausea and vomiting
      Neck pain
      Pain in dentistry (including dental pain and temporomandibular dysfunction)
      Periarthritis of shoulder
      Postoperative pain
      Renal colic
      Rheumatoid arthritis
      Sciatica
      Sprain
      Stroke
      Tennis elbow

      2. Diseases, symptoms or conditions for which the therapeutic effect of acupuncture has been shown but for which further proof is needed:

      Abdominal pain (in acute gastroenteritis or due to gastrointestinal spasm)
      Acne vulgaris
      Alcohol dependence and detoxification
      Bell’s palsy
      Bronchial asthma
      Cancer pain
      Cardiac neurosis
      Cholecystitis, chronic, with acute exacerbation
      Cholelithiasis
      Competition stress syndrome
      Craniocerebral injury, closed
      Diabetes mellitus, non-insulin-dependent
      Earache
      Epidemic haemorrhagic fever
      Epistaxis, simple (without generalized or local disease)
      Eye pain due to subconjunctival injection
      Female infertility
      Facial spasm
      Female urethral syndrome
      Fibromyalgia and fasciitis
      Gastrokinetic disturbance
      Gouty arthritis
      Hepatitis B virus carrier status
      Herpes zoster (human (alpha) herpesvirus 3)
      Hyperlipaemia
      Hypo-ovarianism
      Insomnia
      Labour pain
      Lactation, deficiency
      Male sexual dysfunction, non-organic
      Ménière disease
      Neuralgia, post-herpetic
      Neurodermatitis
      Obesity
      Opium, cocaine and heroin dependence
      Osteoarthritis
      Pain due to endoscopic examination
      Pain in thromboangiitis obliterans
      Polycystic ovary syndrome (Stein-Leventhal syndrome)
      Postextubation in children
      Postoperative convalescence
      Premenstrual syndrome
      Prostatitis, chronic
      Pruritus
      Radicular and pseudoradicular pain syndrome
      Raynaud syndrome, primary
      Recurrent lower urinary-tract infection
      Reflex sympathetic dystrophy
      Retention of urine, traumatic
      Schizophrenia
      Sialism, drug-induced
      Sjögren syndrome
      Sore throat (including tonsillitis)
      Spine pain, acute
      Stiff neck
      Temporomandibular joint dysfunction
      Tietze syndrome
      Tobacco dependence
      Tourette syndrome
      Ulcerative colitis, chronic
      Urolithiasis
      Vascular dementia
      Whooping cough (pertussis)

      Ignorance is bliss only for the ignorant. The rest of us must suffer the consequences. -7.38; -3.44

      by paradise50 on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 10:11:58 AM PDT

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      •  I searched all over the WHO site... (2+ / 0-)
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        ... do you have a link to this list? All I could find is this comment on its efficacy:

        "The efficacy of acupuncture in relieving pain and nausea, for instance, has been conclusively demonstrated and is now acknowledged worldwide." (was in one of their pdf publications on traditional medicine)

        So, for me, the quote above is encouraging but then I've seen other articles that say it has not been conclusively demonstrated (like this one: Acupuncture for Pain ) Which states...

        "An emerging theme in acupuncture research is the role of the placebo. For example, a 2009 systematic review of research on the pain-relieving effects of acupuncture compared with placebo (simulated) or no acupuncture was inconclusive"

        I know the WHO has some global politics at play so am skeptical of their "conclusively demonstrated" statement without any backup (especially when the NIH says the opposite).

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