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  •  That there is an systemic bias toward (2+ / 0-)
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    Gary Norton, erratic

    war I agree. It is more than just the defense contractors, though.

    I'm on a mission! Testing the new site rules.

    by blue aardvark on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 09:06:39 AM PDT

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      chuckvw, Vetwife

      it is everyone who profits from the the whole sorry business, everyone who has an interest in maintaining the status quo.

      It's not a conspiracy, it's a consensus.

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      and MIC does not equal defense contractors...

      Take it easy, but take it.

      by ltsply2 on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 09:11:50 AM PDT

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    •  Among those with a systemic bias toward war ... (2+ / 0-)
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      greenbell, Vetwife

      only the defense contractors make money from it. They have the most to lose if the war machine goes belly up.

      I'm super glad to hear this perspective from your position in the industry. But, it's really hard to buy the argument that the industry kind of sits on the sidelines and aren't all that effective in their ability to mold government to what they need on their bottom lines. That the lobbying expenditures of General Dynamics' might be peanuts compared with Goldman Sachs doesn't measure the reality. I think it's pretty clear historically and economically that defense contractors influence exactly who they need to influence in government and exactly as much as they need to influence them.

      •  It's not only defense contrators that make money (0+ / 0-)

        Off war.

        Just look at how CNN is bellying up to the plate, shrilly trying to get its audience to understand that the President needs to leave for a trip on Tuesday, so to help him with his schedule, we need to do the "bombing campaign" before Monday at noon. We can't disrupt the President's schedule, can we?

        Of course, ever since Hearst decided that his news org would benefit by people reading every day about the war against Spain, newspapers, TV and radio stations welcome war. Few people need to  read the newspaper on Dec 5th 1941. Everyone needs to read it on December 8th 1941.

        I also think this is all about Iran. We need a pretext to get us openly fighting that war. And entering the war "theater" against Syria will probably do it, especially given that Iranian ally Russia is now putting its naval ships over there to protect both Syria and Iran.

        Offer your heart some Joy every day of your life, and spread it along to others.

        by Truedelphi on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 01:17:21 PM PDT

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