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  •  These steps aren't related to the misnamed (11+ / 0-)

    "gun show loophole". It is currently legal to have a sale from one private party to another without a background check. A small percentage of these transactions take place at gun shows and that's where the name "gun show loophole" had its origin.  A more accurate name would be "private party sales".

    Regarding the ownership of military surplus, it still requires a very exhaustive procedure to acquire anything that can be fired in full automatic mode. However, it will certainly reduce the new supply of used military hardware entering the US market.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 08:53:02 AM PDT

    •  Not that there is any evidence whatsoever (3+ / 0-)
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      that such is "finding its way to the streets".

      Non enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit. -Declaration of Arbroath

      by Robobagpiper on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 09:21:18 AM PDT

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    •  uh-huh, so long as it's made since, IIRC, 1900 (1+ / 0-)
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      or so. I can still order an 1891 military bolt-action rifle by mail.

      Of course the supplier is in the states now, but the rifles were made for, IIRC, Argentina. Supposedly they ship in the pre-WW1 equivalent of cosmoline. Straight-back pull-bolt action. Odd caliber, though; might be tough to find ammunition.

      LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

      by BlackSheep1 on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 11:23:57 AM PDT

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    •  In addition (0+ / 0-)

      Eleven states DO regulate private, individual sales in one manner or another (such as background checks).  And those 11 states are some of the more populous States in the US (for example, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, California, etc), so a large percentage of the US population is actually covered by at least a State law that restricts or regulates private sales.

      The sequester is the new Republican immigration reform plan. Make things so bad here in the US that no one will want to live here.

      by Mote Dai on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 12:28:40 PM PDT

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      •  And the pavement is grooved (1+ / 0-)
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        from cars & pick-ups going down RTs 81 & 390 & 15 south to the Pennsylvania Gun Shows from upstate NY.

        President Obama traveled the same route last week when he went on a bus from Syracuse to Binghamton to Scranton, PA.

        He managed to leave Auburn around 10:30 AM, stop for soccer with a high school along the way, do a town hall at SUNY Binghamton and still be in Scranton by 5 PM.  

        With improved 4 lane highways it's gotten to be a quick trip.  

        •  Then what is the use of any state gun law? (2+ / 0-)
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          Are you arguing that any state gun law is ineffective?  Do we stop passing individual state laws because people will circumvent them anyway?

          The sequester is the new Republican immigration reform plan. Make things so bad here in the US that no one will want to live here.

          by Mote Dai on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 01:04:51 PM PDT

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