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  •  Why not do some real work on the problem (7+ / 0-)

    instead of just pretending?
       It'd cost the same, and people will actually notice.

        Whether they want to acknowledge it or not, this thing is a Big Fucking Deal to the People of this Nation.

    "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

    by elwior on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 09:39:23 AM PDT

    •  The "problem" is that we have found (5+ / 0-)

      out the extent of the spying by the NSA on us; not to mention the very real and present dangers of that spying.  Geez, if I had been convicted of some "pot" charge in the past 5 years or so, I'd be wondering if the information that led to my conviction came from the NSA spying network and very possibly "fruit from the poisonous tree". OWS, fusion centers, funky sexual peccadilloes, and who knows what else is hiding behind the NSA skirts?

      •  Oh for sure mary, that's the "problem" from (1+ / 0-)
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        their point of view. There'd be no need for any changes if it weren't for Snowden and the Guardian.
          But now we know. It's out there and it's not going to go away. If anything, more and more information will emerge.
           Given that fact, and the history of the NSA regarding truthfulness, how smart would it be to do real work at this point instead of acting with the intention to obfuscate, which can't be hidden from the People anymore?

           There comes a time when what you're doing isn't working as you intended it to work, and the smart thing to do is to change course. To do otherwise would be counterproductive.

        "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

        by elwior on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 11:08:33 AM PDT

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