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  •  i think this is an attempt to get the convo (11+ / 0-)

    turned back to personalities and not content.

    "The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." ~George Orwell "When it is dark enough, you can see the stars." ~Charles Beard

    by poligirl on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 02:04:54 PM PDT

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    •  hmm (2+ / 0-)

      I just can't figure out why so few people around here seem to think it's a big deal that Snowden accessed and released top secret documents by being a dishonest identity thief. That's all.

      Me and almost all of my other liberal friends think Snowden should be busted for this. It's an interesting disconnect. I don't quite get it.

      •  you are trying to get the focus back on (9+ / 0-)

        Snowden. this diary is not about Snowden. this diary is about the secret budget.

        the BIG DEAL is not Snowden. it's the information he provided us with. how he got it is almost immaterial to the discussion.

        if you want to try to focus on Snowden, try writing a diary. though i notice you're not here very much, and generally only in election season and your comments are even more rare.

        do you have any opinion as to the info contained in the Black Budget?

        "The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." ~George Orwell "When it is dark enough, you can see the stars." ~Charles Beard

        by poligirl on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 02:44:37 PM PDT

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        •  Yep. (0+ / 0-)

          You're right. I come here less when elections aren't happening... Like that's unusual. I thought the whole point of the site was helping to get progressive Dems in and Rethugs out. Bringing down our national security apparatus is not my reason for coming here. And that's ok.

          •  Daily Kos is, of course, playing a major role (4+ / 0-)

            in bringing down that National Security apparatus.

            Thanks, Ed Snowden, we'll take it from here.

            Being an active participant in these diaries from day one, I can't wait to read about myself in the history books a decade from now.




            Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ J. Garcia

            by DeadHead on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 05:18:34 PM PDT

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          •  i just find it funny that you are trying to derail (7+ / 0-)

            the discussion on the newly published Black Budget and trying to get it onto Ed Snowden.

            it's fairly clear by that that you are not hear out of concern that our national security apparatus has gone too far.

            we are. but if you want to still try to hijack. have at it. i'll leave you to do whatever you came in here to do.

            "The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." ~George Orwell "When it is dark enough, you can see the stars." ~Charles Beard

            by poligirl on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 06:20:53 PM PDT

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            •  i came here... (0+ / 0-)

              ...to spur discussion. because there are plenty of people around here on this progressive/Democratic site who...gasp...admire and trust President Obama more than this Snowden guy. crazy i know.

              or at the very least, a lot of well-meaning smart people see plenty of conflict and grey in this situation. i thought that's what liberals were good at...

              •  Yeah, I agree with this part: (4+ / 0-)
                gasp...admire and trust President Obama more than this Snowden guy. crazy i know
                Especially nowadays. Obama has done a wonderful job maintaining the trust of the American people in regards to the NSA/surveillance issue.

                Sorry, being a sycophant isn't a prerequisite for participation on DailyKos, much to the chagrin of many here, I know.




                Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ J. Garcia

                by DeadHead on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 12:20:21 AM PDT

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              •  but what has that got to do with the topic of (0+ / 0-)

                the diary? this diary is about this country's Black Budget.

                NOTHING.

                this is not an open thread. perhaps you could try starting your discussion subject there. or write a diary to spark the discussion you seem to want to have.

                in here, all it amounts to is you attempting to change the subject. that you keep doing it seems to imply that you really really really want to change the subject. smells kinda fishy too, especially the way you keep using the term "liberals" in more of a 'you liberals' kind of way.

                so go to an open thread or write a diary, but this diary isn't about Ed Snowden which means you're a hijacker.

                "The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." ~George Orwell "When it is dark enough, you can see the stars." ~Charles Beard

                by poligirl on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 07:46:25 AM PDT

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      •  It's an interesting question (2+ / 0-)
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        but not pertinent to this subject.

        Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell. --Edward Abbey

        by ricklewsive on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 02:54:57 PM PDT

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      •  Not taking the bait (3+ / 0-)
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        Occulus, poligirl, Nada Lemming

        and you sound like a NSA troll on top of it.

        Helping a food pantry on the Cheyenne River Reservation,Okiciyap.

        by betson08 on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 06:49:04 PM PDT

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