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  •  I think there's a need by some to (9+ / 0-)

    defend the president in some way regardless of what he does. So they aren't really, really for intervention, but they want to make sure that intervention doesn't look too bad on the president. Mostly because the "trust him," which is a theme I've seen popping up more.

    But also, and probably more importantly, it's just part of the general nonsense meta fight that happens here where no one can let any statement go and has to attribute it to some large group of people and say how crazy or horrible that group of people is.

    If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

    by AoT on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 05:36:15 PM PDT

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    •  And there is a need in some (4+ / 0-)
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      to hang every evil in world on him, to the point of never being able to examine any single act without looking for that hidden agenda.

      I like the President but don't feel the need to defend him in real life as much as I do here. Probably because the insults thrown at him here are far worse than the insults coming from my devout Mormon conservative fellow citizens. They are more thoughtful and more grounded in reality. (teahadists excluded)

      "Humidity built the snowman. Sunshine brought him down" John Prine

      by high uintas on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 08:27:26 PM PDT

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      •  And this is what Imea by the meta-war (2+ / 0-)
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        I've had so many people accuse me on this issue of blaming the president, or close enough, that the only reason I can see is because some of them has decided that I don't like the president and am just here to bad mouth him. And that'sbecause I'm on the "other side" in the meta war. And the worst is wen someone brings up the president to say that they support this because they trust him and then someone else counters that maybe he and the intelligence agencies aren't so trustworthy, which leads to someone else screaming about how the commenter hates the president.

        And I'm quite sure it happens the other direction too. There are in fact sock puppets and shills here paid to disrupt the conversation and you'll never be able to tell who they are by what "side" they are on. I can guarantee that.

        If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

        by AoT on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 08:38:33 PM PDT

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        •  I have no idea about socks or shills (2+ / 0-)
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          I know that when I disagree vehemently with someone long enough I start to assign all kinds of nefarious intents.

          I agree with you on the meta wars, they get totally out of hand when people take a side and then build bunkers and watch towers and prepare to defend to the death. No way they can question their own opinions or grok the opinions of the "others".

          On the "other side" as you put it you get things like "clap louder" and insinuations that you are just into hero worship. It does go both ways and it is a waste of our time, IMO.

          "Humidity built the snowman. Sunshine brought him down" John Prine

          by high uintas on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 09:01:12 PM PDT

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