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  •  Still, (0+ / 0-)

    the poor should feel invested in the way that taxes are raised and spent. If they even had to send in a ceremonial dollar, they would be participating in government. The way things are now, those who do not pay taxes are made to feel marginalised and don't bother to participate in government because it has nothing to do with them.
    That's my take, but consultation with the people concerned through studies and interviews might be helpful. A lot of us speak for the poor. I haven't been in that position for forty years, but even as a part time worker on minimum wage, I paid a small amount of taxes back in the day and was vitally interested on whether they were being used for Headstart or military adventures. I'm not sure what people would think now, and would be interested to learn.

    “The universe implodes. No matter.” -Liam Williams

    by northsylvania on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 03:37:08 AM PDT

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    •  But they *are* (3+ / 0-)
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      already paying taxes. Please refer to that pie chart up top. And the vast majority of the 10% who are not paying income or payroll taxes are the elderly, who paid plenty of both during their working lives, and are still paying whatever sales tax, property tax and utility taxes are in effect where they live.

      Even someone who's homeless and survives by begging pays tax every time they scrape together enough money to buy a meal.

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 05:02:21 AM PDT

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      •  Most people consider (0+ / 0-)

        payroll taxes as their own investment in Social Security, though it isn't. Sales taxes are generally publicised as being local taxes, which support the police, fire department, libraries, etc. People have become convinced that there is no such thing as country-wide general welfare. Even the interstates are maintained on a state by state basis. To many, the U.S. government takes from those who produce income and give to those who don't, or at the most that it is spent on the military. Problem is the general perception is that welfare takes more money than the military, which isn't even close. If it were, the country would actually be better off all across the income strata.

        “The universe implodes. No matter.” -Liam Williams

        by northsylvania on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 07:22:38 AM PDT

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