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  •  No (6+ / 0-)

    you would have to adopt a Parliamentary system for your example to work.  First you would have to separate the role of head of state from that of government leader.  Obama would be the government leader or PM.  You would have to completely abandon the Congressional system of government for it to work.
    The point of the original discussion is that Cameron is responsible to the House of Commons in which he sits as a member.  Since the US system separates the executive and legislative branch, that level of 1) legislative control and 2) accountability to the legislature does not exist.  You've separated those to branches.  You have to go to impeachment with a demanding set of offences necessary to remove a President.  A Prime Miniister can be removed by a vote of no confidence.  That said, he/she could go on to win the election that results

    •  The point I was trying to make... (0+ / 0-)

      is that the parliamentary system greatly limits the power of the official head of state (the Queen)  in comparison to the America counterpart (the President). The Canadian Senate is also far less important than its American equivalent in determining what laws get passed.

      The greatest correspondence is between the two systems is between the House of Representatives and the House of Commons, however, Boehner is obviously far less powerful than his parliamentary analog, the Prime Minister.

      By the way, I'm Canadian.

      The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -- John Kenneth Galbraith

      by richardak on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 12:48:32 AM PDT

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      •  So am I (7+ / 0-)

        I don't disagree with you but the problem is in trying to find analagous situations between two completely different forms of government.  The most basic fundamental is the separation of the executive from the legislature in the US system.  Americans see that as a great strength with checks and balances, etc.  In reality, however, it's become a major impediment with the executive branch unable to accomplish anything legislatively since the other party controls the H of R and has adopted a policy of obstruction and outright vandalism.
        It's very difficult to see that happening in a Parliamentary system since the executive controls the legislature.  That's why I'm against an elected Senate in Canada since it would open us up to some of the gridlock and dysfunction that we see in the US
        It's worth noting that around 160 new countries have emerged since the end of WW2 and none of them have adopted the US Congressional system of government

      •  The US President is the head of government, (2+ / 0-)
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        as well as the head of state. The Speaker of the House is not the head of government so you cannot just substitute one for the other.

        You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

        by sewaneepat on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 03:44:43 AM PDT

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