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  •  Total nonsequitor (0+ / 0-)
    Defenders of this technology will say that no one has a legitimate expectation of privacy in public. But as surveillance technology improves, the distinction between public spaces and private spaces becomes less meaningful. There is a vast difference between a law enforcement officer’s sifting through thousands of hours of video footage in search of a person of interest, and his using software to instantly locate that person anywhere, at any time.
    Public is public. Private is private. Data processing has to do with neither.

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    by dhonig on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 09:55:46 AM PDT

    •  You're missing McCall's point. He's saying that (4+ / 0-)

      modern data processing has gone way beyond simply surveilling traditional public spaces, to being able to say where any given person is at any time. If you are tracked all the way to your door, or any door, and you don't leave, "they" know where you are. And if they are really interested in you, they will point an infrared laser at your windows and demodulate the resulting reflections to listen to your conversations.

      And, modern computing power allows such tracking of lots of people at once.

      To say that "data processing has to do with neither" [public nor private] is to miss the fact that, as in every other sphere, at some point quantity becomes quality- i.e. that the sheer volume of sophisticated data-processing that is possible makes a mockery of privacy. Privacy is erased if your every step outside your home can be tracked as if there were an army of millions of secret police running around looking at everything you do.

    •  I disagree. We have a right to privacy as we (3+ / 0-)
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      move around in public spaces.  We have a right not to be surveilled, followed, tracked or otherwise spied upon as we go about our daily lives.  In the absence of probable cause, we have the right to be left alone and go from place to place without our every move being recorded for future access by whoever has possession of the database at any future time.

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      by StrayCat on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 11:39:51 AM PDT

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