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  •  While this (12+ / 0-)

    may be delusional it's a really dark inhuman delusion the stuff nightmares are made of. No wonder I'm slightly agoraphobic and getting more so. As for constitutional Nancy Pelosi had a good point when she said if it's unenforceable what good is it. Seems to me that common universal  law has been twisted into a semantic debate between bent lawyers that rivals the absurd theological debate about how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. Homeland Security the name itself makes my body hairs stand on end.      

    •  It's uncanny the names they come up with. (7+ / 0-)

      Almost seems like an ill-placed joke.

      As for the constitutionality, you are quite correct; as we saw during the Cheney administration, if it's arguable, it's legal according to the Executive Office. And, if it's not, the Office will make it legal through signing statements, EO's, and good old fashioned coersion.

      "You are not even aware of what is possible. The extent of their capabilities is horrifying."Edward Snowden -6.62, -6.92

      by CanyonWren on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 10:45:17 AM PDT

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      •  That stack of super-top-secret OLC opinions... (8+ / 0-)

        keeps getting higher and higher. Together, those opinions have formed an extralegal, secret body of law that the public is not privy to.

        CREW (Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington) is in the process of suing the DoJ for release of all the OLC (Office of Legal Counsel) opinions that the executive branch has used over the past two administrations to justify [clearly] unconstitutional acts.

        CREW Sues DOJ for Refusing to Release OLC Memos

        Washington, D.C. — Today, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court seeking to compel the Department of Justice (DOJ), Attorney General Eric Holder, and Assistant Attorney General Virginia A. Seitz to make Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinions available to the public as the law requires.

        The government has relied on OLC opinions to justify a broad range of controversial policies, including extraordinary rendition, the use of torture, and the killing of Americans abroad.  These opinions constitute unpublished statements of policy and interpretations of the law that have been adopted by the executive branch and its agencies.  By effectively creating a body of secret law, OLC and DOJ are undermining our democratic government.

        CREW's Melanie Sloan is as tenacious as a bulldog.

        Show her some love if so inclined

        'Cuz freedom can't protect itself ~~ EFF ~ EPIC ~ ACLU

        by markthshark on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 11:57:50 AM PDT

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        •  That is an excellent group, deserving of its own (0+ / 0-)

          diary (Mark?;). Thanks for the link, I'll send them some love. The OLC has become the defacto Supreme Court for the Executive Branch...ridiculous reach of power. I'm glad CREW is fighting them.

          "You are not even aware of what is possible. The extent of their capabilities is horrifying."Edward Snowden -6.62, -6.92

          by CanyonWren on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 07:17:35 PM PDT

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    •  Well, don't let is all make you paranoid, because (1+ / 0-)
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      then they win.  Pull the curtain back and expose this nonsense.

      We know the snoop FOR PROFIT industry can have access and no doubt they can enjoy the privilege for sport when bored.  So what.

      Let's deal with what's important:  Let's put these good folks to work on something our society really needs, because this is probably the best jobs program we're going to get from this President.

      Separation of Church and State AND Corporation

      by Einsteinia on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 11:05:09 AM PDT

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