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  •  Your point #1 isn't bad. #2 is completely (8+ / 0-)

    qualitative...and at some point it has to be tiresome to attend group diaries where the group has a different qualitative opinion than you, no?

    While you dream of Utopia, we're here on Earth, getting things done.

    by GoGoGoEverton on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 06:57:32 AM PDT

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    •  Point 2 is Quantitative (7+ / 0-)

      There have been rigorously controlled randomized empiric studies demonstrating the beneficial effects of MJ in certain disease conditions.  Such empiric evidence shows quantitatively (not qualitatively) that MJ use is beneficial, and the extent (a quantity, not a quality) of that beneficial effect.

      I challenge you to show me ONE SINGLE controlled randomized empiric study showing the beneficial effects of gun use for any disease condition.

      What I find tiresome are those who repeatedly deny the results of empiric scientific investigation in favor of their opinion on the matter of guns.

      "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

      by Hugh Jim Bissell on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 07:11:29 AM PDT

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      •  That's your own context, not the diary's. (7+ / 0-)

        Nothing about 'medicinal use only' in the diary, nor is that what has been passing recently in statewide elections.

        While you dream of Utopia, we're here on Earth, getting things done.

        by GoGoGoEverton on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 08:01:02 AM PDT

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      •  Recc'd for conversation. I have one such study (6+ / 0-)

        It comes under "My Life Studies & Experiences."  No it's not been peer reviewed or even published but that "study" was done when I was 13 yrs old.

        I lived in what is now called "the projects" in Binghamton, NY.  Beautifully new apartment complexes for Americans with low income.

        Well, as humans congregate in large numbers, roving "gangs" will appear or be created.  Once such gang, called "The Ely Park Rats" decided to threaten my family.  How did they do so?  They attempted to force their way into our home, there was around 18 or 20 of them.  They "wanted" my father, a Marine that didn't take kindly to their abuses and intimidation's.

        On that eventful day, when my parents were not home, they tried to force their way in.  It was because of my fathers mandatory firearms training that myself and my sister were able to defend ourselves and our home.

        I, in my shorts and tee-shirt, loaded his 357 and my sister loaded the 12 gauge.  When they broke the door down, I was standing right there waiting.  I gave them two choices:  "Leave now or take another step and die."

        Their leader acted as though he didn't believe me, my sister standing on the steps behind me, cocked the 12 gauge, they scattered like the "rats" they professed to be.  

        No bullet was fired and no one died.  Those firearms saved 4 lives that day, mine, my sisters, my father's and his wife's.

        The world is rule by force, he with the most force wins.  Anyone claiming otherwise hasn't studied life very well.

        And, FYI, it was because of that event and my reflections upon it months and years later that I vowed never to own a firearm.  Why? I chose not to become a killer.  I know, in my heart of hearts, I will pull the trigger, without question or remorse, as I would have done at the ripe old age of 13.  My families life comes before yours, every time, when you mean to do us harm.

        You see, a firearm may not be able to cure cancer, it may not be able to fix a broken leg, hell, it won't fix any physical ailment you have, but IT will protect your life so that you will have a "tomorrow" to  deal with those ailments.

        And on the grand scheme of things, if your dead, it really doesn't matter how you died, you're just as dead.  There is no "tomorrow".

        So, I guess I'm saying, now that I think about it, a firearm can and does "save tomorrow" for you to experience.

        -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

        by gerrilea on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 08:01:38 AM PDT

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    •  Point one is a helluva lot more than not bad (1+ / 0-)
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      It points out very well the very obvious apples and oranges comparison that's being made.

      If work was a good thing, the rich would have it all and not let you do it. -- Elmore Leonard

      by voroki on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 08:48:10 AM PDT

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