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  •  what of our support of Saddam? (1+ / 0-)
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    the weapons and intel we gave him?
    Or after his little Kuwaiti invasion, which was approved of by our local diplomette? And what of our tacit approval of his Kurd Elimination Program?

    Or what of our attacks on Viet Nam? Agent Orange? massive bombing of areas that had no military value? Or our mining of the harbor around Hanoi?

    What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

    by agnostic on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 08:01:35 AM PDT

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    •  I agree that those were all terrible things. (1+ / 0-)
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      what of our support of Saddam?
      the weapons and intel we gave him?
      Or after his little Kuwaiti invasion, which was approved of by our local diplomette? And what of our tacit approval of his Kurd Elimination Program?

      Or what of our attacks on Viet Nam? Agent Orange? massive bombing of areas that had no military value? Or our mining of the harbor around Hanoi?

      Those US officials who supported Saddam Hussein's gassing of the Kurds should have been brought up on trial for war crimes, as Hussein himself should have been. I do not dispute the fact that the US has for far too long operated as if it is above the law.

      But again, going back to the metaphor, does it really matter what the big guy has done in his past in the moment when he sees the little guy beating his children to death?

      Would we really say, "That man is a felon! He has no moral right to stop that smaller man from beating those children to death! He should have allowed the smaller man to continue, and waited for someone with a better record to come along!"

      I doubt it.

      Those American leaders who were responsible for aiding and abetting—or participating in—crimes against humanity should face justice for their actions, you'll get no argument from me there. This nation's leaders have been all too eager to turn a blind eye when their "allies" have committed such crimes, and one of the comforts my religion offers me is that they cannot escape justice forever, even if they do escape it in this life.

      But we cannot change our past; the only moment in which we can actually control our actions is the present moment. And if, in the present moment, we receive clear and convincing proof that we're witnessing crimes against humanity, and we have the power to stop them, I think it is a moral imperative that we do so.

      "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

      by JamesGG on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 09:37:13 AM PDT

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      •  but our past behavior often justifies our present (0+ / 0-)

        acts. Look how little discussion there was about drone attacks and assassinations. Bush did them, and few complained. Obama adopted his policy and expanded it. And again, few complain. In fact, most people don't give it a second thought.
        "Oh, we killed another #2 leader of Al Qaida? Great!"
        "Oh, we fired based on misinformation and killed 24 kids attending a wedding part? Great!"
        "Oh, we killed a bunch of friendlies, and a couple english troops? Great. They shouldn't have been there."

        What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

        by agnostic on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 10:16:20 AM PDT

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