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  •  Defense of civilization (3+ / 0-)
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    Civilization can not exist without the rule of law. The UN Security Council is unable to fulfill that function. This goes beyond the immediate case at hand.

    If we, collectively and globally, wish to prohibit the use of chemical weapons and other weapons of mass destruction, we must stand ready to act when that prohibition is violated.

    Others have simply gotten old. I prefer to think I've been tempered by time.

    by Just Bob on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 03:30:27 PM PDT

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    •  Where does that moral authority come from? (2+ / 0-)
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      •  That's a jaw dropping remark (2+ / 0-)
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        What moral authority do you think should be required to deter the slaughter of unarmed civilians?

        Others have simply gotten old. I prefer to think I've been tempered by time.

        by Just Bob on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 04:06:17 PM PDT

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        •  What is the plan to deter this slaughter? (4+ / 0-)
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          I'm not seeing a plan.

          And forgive my skepticism, but US unilateral action in the Mid East and elsewhere hasn't got a great track record of making stuff better for other people.  Not even with a coalition of the willing.

          •  As someone said, there's no good options. (2+ / 0-)
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            So, they have to try and remove the strategic advantage that the CW gave them.
            They don't have to win the war, just make the cost benefit analysis on CW land in the red.
            They have to suppress the ability of Assad to "win" without empowering an al Qaeda affiliate to the point of victory.
            They've stated that there is no viable way to end this with a military victory, but they have to try to thread the needle and force the regime to a political solution in which Assad is forced out and the state of Syria is reformed such that al Qaeda doesn't get total control.
            At the same time, they have to try to loosen Iran's grip and marginalize Hezbollah.
            I"m guessing that they will start with No. 1 on a list of things to do to create a No-Fly-Zone over Syria.

            That will include radar and antiaircraft batteries. That will get the regime's attention.
            Before you get mad at me, let me say I don't support military intervention at this point.
            I do think the sliver of hope in all this is the acknowledgment that there is no viable military option that will end the slaughter and that a political/diplomatic solution must be found.

            You can't make this stuff up.

            by David54 on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 08:23:42 PM PDT

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        •  Where was this moral authority you speak of (5+ / 0-)

          when the US attacked Iraq based on a lie and hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians died?

          Where was it in the dozens of overt and covert interventions by the US since WWII that has killed and maimed tens of millions of innocent men, women and children?

          It's going to take more than one US president to prove that the US has the "moral" authority to use it's bloated military power as a force for good other than as a force to spread unfettered capitalism.

          Obama has certainly not got off to a good start in that direction.

        •  A Declaration of War by Congress (0+ / 0-)

          is the only moral authority recognized by the US Contitution. Let's get to it.

          Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

          by OregonOak on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 07:41:12 PM PDT

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      •  Shining city upon a hill... (1+ / 0-)
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