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  •  OK, suppose we do just that (1+ / 0-)
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    Although you do realize that the President et al have denied that their objective is regime change? And you do realize that it is illegal to target foreign leaders for assassination? (the 70s response to the discovery that the CIA had tried to kill Castro multiple times and that JFK's death may have been blowback). OK, I don't care about those things either. I do care that Congress give permission, but fuck it, bombs away.
         Now we are at, say, October 1st. Thousands have died (collateral damage you know, so sad) and Assad is one of them. Syria is now Somalia north, with an anarchic blizzard of shells, bombs, bullets, and yes, now chemical weapons---they don't disappear just because we shoot Assad. Somebody finds them in a warehouse or forty. And then uses them because if you are the People's Front for the Liberation of Syria, the members of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Syria must die to the last man, woman, and child. OK, so maybe we still don't care because we have done some righteous killing and if things didn't turn out too well, who could have known?
         And then some smuggled nerve gas bombs go off on the Lexington Avenue line at rush hour and on the Red Line trains heading for Glenmont...and dead Americans by the train load. Terrorism! So, we will need to kill somebody....
          See, I get moral outrage. And I get the desirability of a pleasant and peaceful secular democratic Syria. What I don't get is how we get from moral outrage to the democratic paradise. Before we drop a few bombs, could somebody explain it to me? I never did grasp how escalation in Vietnam would cause the North Vietnamese  to behave.  I never did understand how getting rid of Saddam Hussein was going to bring peace to Iraq. But that's just me.  

    "Something has gone very wrong with America, not just its economy, but its ability to function as a democratic nation. And it’s hard to see when or how that wrongness will get fixed." Paul Krugman and Robin Wells

    by Reston history guy on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 07:00:40 PM PDT

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    •  we never learn from history (0+ / 0-)

      we keep thinking that somehow, just somehow, that this time will be different.

      if we really wanted to end this war within weeks we would stop funneling weapons to the insurgents and we would tell the saudis to do the same

      but of course the end result is not what we politically desire at this time so we look the other way just like we are doing with egypt. thousands being killed with our weapons and with our tax dollars. and without anyone in government showing moral outrage.

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