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  •  I'm not at all sure what the Independent's (7+ / 0-)

    source was ... it was a very carefully and oddly worded article.  They certainly tried to give the impression their source derived from Snowden's documents, but they never directly said that.

    "That capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything ... There would be no place to hide." - Senator Frank Church

    by jrooth on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 03:10:51 PM PDT

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    •  quoting their article... (1+ / 0-)
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      The Independent is not revealing the precise location of the station but information on its activities was contained in the leaked documents obtained from the NSA by Edward Snowden.
      I suppose that does leave the option open that they got the information from a "parallel" source, but still, they are presumably aware of what Snowden has.

      The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -- John Kenneth Galbraith

      by richardak on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 03:31:05 PM PDT

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      •  Gee, how come WE aren't? (0+ / 0-)
        they are presumably aware of what Snowden has.
        Because that story, like the one in the Independent, is a lot of baloney.

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 04:15:21 PM PDT

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      •  Which could well be from the government (1+ / 0-)
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        of Britain, which confiscated a number of those files from Miranda prior to the story being released. Unless I've got my timeline mistaken.

        If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

        by AoT on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 04:42:23 PM PDT

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        •  Anyone could do a story saying "Snowden has (0+ / 0-)

          nuke bomb codes!!!*!!!"

          There'd be no way to confirm or debunk it - and it only serves one side. Just like this story.

          Hmmm...

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