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  •  How did Carter get us into Afganistan? (0+ / 0-)

    I believe that was Regan.   Carter is unique in that he did not get into a military engagement with the exception of the attempt to rescue the hostages (and that didn't get that far.)

    •  Carter.... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...I believe started the funding for the Afghan rebels that later became the Taliban.  And I just adore Carter so if anyone would cover for him it would be me.  But I could be incorrect.

      We Glory in war, in the shedding of human blood. What fools we are.

      by delver rootnose on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 10:41:28 PM PDT

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    •  Carter authorized arming the Mujahadeen (1+ / 0-)
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      to drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan. I've read accounts that claim that he had the CIA provoke the Soviet invasion. Reagan just continued this policy.

    •  Brzezinski (0+ / 0-)

      Zbgniew Brzezinski was Carter's Secretary of State (his daughter Mika is the ventriloquist's dummy on the Scarborough MSNBC show). Brzezinski had the CIA organize jihadist "mujahideen" in Afghanistan to "give Russia its own Vietnam" by attacking the Russian puppet government, drawing in Russian troops for inevitable failure. It worked.

      That foreign policy by CIA also created Al Qaeda as one of the mujahideen bases. And it boosted the Haqqani gangs that now are one of the primary enemies there. Plus it set up the drugs/weapons triangular trade that continues to plague us.

      Yes, Reagan/Bush, Al Haig, Oliver North, etc all turned that peripheral Cold War operation into the blowback that has been the catastrophic center of our foreign relations ever since, including several ruinous wars. But it was Carter and Brzezinski who created it, and kicked off all the risks that have come home to roost ever since.

      "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

      by DocGonzo on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 09:46:54 AM PDT

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