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  •  This has nothing to do with the War on Terror. (1+ / 0-)
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    Just because you can't tell the difference doesn't mean the President can't.

    Art is the handmaid of human good.

    by joe from Lowell on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 07:42:05 AM PDT

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    •  Oh Bull shit !!! (5+ / 0-)
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      chemical weapons are not terror?   And just watch..WOT will be included in one of the many speeches so don't hand me that line  of spin and think  I am stupid.

      Just how much do YOU know about war...that is like saying a military strike is not an act of war.   If you had any clue at all of what you just said you would know that
      not one troop or soldier in the mediterranen could claim anything if this did not fall under the theatre of War on Terror.

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      by Vetwife on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 07:48:03 AM PDT

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      •  CBS called it exactly that !!! (2+ / 0-)
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        by Vetwife on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 07:55:16 AM PDT

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        •  this excerpt (2+ / 0-)
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          Syria: The next front in the war on terror?
          June 8, 2013 4:00 AM

          Flash Points: CBS News State Department Correspondent Margaret Brennan talks with CBS News Senior National Security Analyst Juan Zarate about the latest troubling developments in the Syrian civil war, from al Qaeda's growing involvement to Russia's continued support of the Assad regime

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          by Vetwife on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 07:57:21 AM PDT

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        •  Screw CBS. I care about the administration. (0+ / 0-)

          I don't expect knowledgable commentary from the mainstream media.

          Art is the handmaid of human good.

          by joe from Lowell on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 08:10:01 AM PDT

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          •  That was in June ..... (1+ / 0-)
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            and here lately I don't expect knowledgble commentary from the administration either... Even if I worked my butt of twice for election and reelection.  
            War on Terror supposed  to be over says this administration.   Well... terror still exisits... and always will.
            In war zones... silencers were against the Geneva convention but renaming it to noise suppresors was OK.
            Really?   A rose by any other name...or a missle strike...
            Still the same

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            by Vetwife on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 08:32:16 AM PDT

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            •  You can't even see your point anymore. (0+ / 0-)

              Never mind wandering off from it. You don't even know what direction it lies in anymore.

              Let me remind you: you were trying to argue that the administration was linking action against the Syrian government to the "War on Terror."

              And I would find this oh-so-principled argument that chemical weapons are no big deal, no different from anything else, a whole lot more respectable if anyone making it had provided the slightest indication they felt that way before, say, last Thursday.

              Art is the handmaid of human good.

              by joe from Lowell on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 08:39:23 AM PDT

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              •  Where did I say it was no big deal.. I said it was (0+ / 0-)

                terror and torture.  You have lost your ability to communicate.  You do not have a clue and I smell projection here as it is YOU who has no direction of which you speak... I know exactly what I am talking about.. My opinion of the situation and of course many others as well but since you work with so many of those who have served or are serving, I guess that makes you more capable to conclude a judgment....More than many of we advocates on here....who talk to the military community every single breathing moment of our lives.   Rant on....you are young yet and still learning.

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                by Vetwife on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 10:43:03 AM PDT

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                •  Yo, Kerouac, try making a point! (0+ / 0-)

                  Quibbling with my wording and stream-of-consciousness typing do not rebut the argument the chemical weapons are treated as an especially dangerous category for a reason.

                  Art is the handmaid of human good.

                  by joe from Lowell on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 10:52:09 AM PDT

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                  •  You are just wanting to throw pie (0+ / 0-)

                    How mature.    You are the one going off point in so many directions trying to project your views but I know my point and if you don't get it then, this debate is futile because you think people against the invasion of Syria is about NOT thinking chemicals are WMD...is just beyond the pale but we cannot strike everyone who has them....
                    We would have to start with us...Does this ring a bell?

                    Testvet...Edgewood....MKUltra...Do you honestly believe Syria is the only country that has openly used WMD's.
                    Do you think terroism did not not exist before 911.  Surely not.  Terror has been long before mine or your birth and will be long after our deaths.

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                    by Vetwife on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 11:05:00 AM PDT

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          •  OK. How about President Obama? (1+ / 0-)
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            [Obama] said U.S. allies Israel, Turkey and Jordan would be threatened, as well as U.S. national security interests, if Syria is allowed to use chemical weapons without retribution. Terrorists could get their hands on the weapons as well, he said.
            POTUS

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            by JVolvo on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 01:14:39 PM PDT

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      •  "Just watch" huh? You mean, it hasn't been. OK. (0+ / 0-)

        Tell me, Madame Certainty, how often did the administration link the Libya operation to the war against al Qaeda? Why, that would be zero.

        And just because chemical weapons can be used by terrorists does not mean an effort to curtail them is part of the "War on Terror" (a phrase this administration doesn't use, but whatever).

        Tell me, do you think the 2001 AUMF - the one that authorized the "War on Terror" covers the upcoming strikes in Syria?

        Careful, now.

        Art is the handmaid of human good.

        by joe from Lowell on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 08:09:23 AM PDT

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    •  Obama himself was in fine Cheney style (1+ / 0-)
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      saying the weapons could threaten us.  How? TERROR!!

      •  YOU are using the "War on Terror" formulation now. (0+ / 0-)

        You, not the administration, are now conflating the tactic of terrorism (these weapons could fall into the hands of terrorists, which would threaten us) with the war being waged against al Qaeda.

        The administration did indeed talk about the potential threat of terrorism. They did not, unlike you, treat that threat as the same thing as the so-called War on Terror.

        Oh, and I love the way the entirety of the threat of terrorism is now "Cheney style," as if it was the consideration of terrorism as a threat itself, and not the shady manipulation of that concern for unrelated purposes, is what defined Cheneyism.

        Frankly, I think you're in over your head here. I think you hear the word "terror" and mix up a whole bunch of different things.

        Art is the handmaid of human good.

        by joe from Lowell on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 10:07:38 AM PDT

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    •  Then you need to straighten out POTUS: (1+ / 0-)
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      [Obama] said U.S. allies Israel, Turkey and Jordan would be threatened, as well as U.S. national security interests, if Syria is allowed to use chemical weapons without retribution. Terrorists could get their hands on the weapons as well, he said.

      Reuters D'Oh!

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      by JVolvo on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 01:09:58 PM PDT

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