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  •  Most of the world considered us brutal (3+ / 0-)

    imperialists with no respect for human life who had spent a century rejecting the concept that non-white peoples had a right to govern themselves.

    "Our" (speaking of the broader culture) own perception of how the world sees us has been less skewed in the last 15 years largely because of the internet, but it's still pretty divorced from reality.

    1) Bomb Syria 2)???????????? 3) Lives saved!!!!!!

    by JesseCW on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 10:19:39 PM PDT

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    •  The world considered the US to be either (0+ / 0-)

      a shining example and the best hope of humankind, or the beginning of the end (for "civilized" aristocracies) at the time of the Revolution and the Constitution. Even at our worst, for example slavery, the Mexican War and the Spanish-American War, and the genocide of Native Americans, it was widely considered that the US was not as bad as the other Imperial powers. Compare us with the British Opium Wars in China, for example, or slavery in the French colonies, especially Haiti.

      The US has done much that is transcendently good, such as the Marshall Plan, and much that is evil, such as propping up dozens of dictators.

      Rejecting the rights of the non-White populations of the world is only one strand of US policy. Support for those rights goes back to Woodrow Wilson and the League of Nations.

      We are still hugely admired at the same time that we are greatly loathed.

      Your assignment, should you choose to accept it, is to get More and Better Democrats in charge of US foreign policy and reining in the multinationals.

      Republicans are assisting in every way they can think of by making their brand ever more toxic. They are particularly driving away their women and children. Always thank them whenever you get a chance. Pointing and laughing is much better for your health than outrage, and is more effective at reaching those we need to peel off from their base.

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 07:18:26 AM PDT

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      •  No one outside of the US considered us a (0+ / 0-)

        "Shining example".

        It's a uniquely American hubris (these days, it used to be common in Britain) to see ourselves as a great beacon unto nations.  

        It's not based in reality.

        Woodrow Wilson, the guy who watched Birth of a Nation and remark "It's all so true"?  That Woodrow Wilson?

        He extended "whiteness" to Armenians.  That's about as far as he differed.

        1) Bomb Syria 2)???????????? 3) Lives saved!!!!!!

        by JesseCW on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 10:04:59 AM PDT

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        •  Another lie (0+ / 0-)

          Wilson condemned Birth of a Nation. It was just the marketing guy, Dixon, who put the story of his approval about.

          From Wikipedia

          The Birth of a Nation

          Historians believe the quote attributed to Wilson originated with Dixon, who was relentless in publicizing the film. It has been repeated so often in print that it has taken on a life of its own. Dixon went so far as to promote the film as "Federally endorsed". After controversy over the film had grown, Wilson wrote that he disapproved of the "unfortunate production."

          Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

          by Mokurai on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 10:21:00 PM PDT

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