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  •  Yes, you read that correctly, nothing to miss. I (4+ / 0-)

    am sick and tired of assholes with guns, period. So I became another asshole with guns- Not out of some imagined possible or perceived threat from "criminals"as 99% seem to justify the possession of, but a very real, based upon experience threat and those threats came from law abiding responsible gun owners.
       If you don't like the ease in which I obtained them then I'd certainly suggest that instead of pissing and moaning for more and more guns and easier unrestricted access to them that maybe, just maybe the focus should be on ensuring that someone like myself doesn't have it that easy, ya think? Unfettered access is exactly what the NRA pushes for and why do you think it is easier for me to obtain one than you? Why is it I have a harder time trying to exercise my right to vote than to go buy a gun off of a legal responsible gun owner?
       I am not some violent crazy mofo with guns, nor have I ever been. I am not the one you need to worry about.
       The ones you need to concern yourself with are the ones like the law abiding responsible gun owner until he wasn't law abiding nor responsible that shot and killed my kid- who by the way would have been 30 today if it hadn't been for such easy access to guns.
        The one who as he stalked her and we sought police protection from, that I was told by them "if I catch you with a gun you're going to jail", who told my kid "if I catch you with a gun you're going to jail".
        We were both "criminals" not allowed to own or possess guns for the crime of possessing weed. Ever possess weed, Gerrilea? I'm guessing you have. Just never got caught, right? Well, I did. My kid did. I couldn't protect my kid and my kid couldn't protect herself from a known crazy fuck with a gun that was allowed to have one because he was a law abiding responsible gun owner.
        Sure was, despite the fact that he had been charged with 1st degree murder, aggravated attempted murder, aggravated battery, menacing, and domestic violence.
        Difference between he and I was that he was never convicted, which made him legal to buy and possess guns. Guns he killed a number of people with. But by law he was a "legal responsible gun owner". Feel good about that? This is what happens when people like yourself advocate for guns guns guns without looking at the entire picture, that some really dangerous, really crazy motherfuckers are out and about packing legally that you have no idea are so fucked up until they go off and become not so legal, not so responsible.
        It's all merely anecdotal, of course- until it happens to you, or someone you know, or your child. Then what?
        Whatever "what" is, at that moment it is too little too late and it is no longer "anecdotal".
        It is real.
        Real as all fuck.
        She'd have been here on her 30th birthday today.
        Happy fucking birthday, kiddo...
        If it weren't for a law abiding responsible gun owner.
        Now- you want to judge me for committing a crime? Go right ahead, that's your prerogative to do so but if or as you do you may just ask yourself what you consider the following.
        I already described the first incident, the stalking and eventual murder of my child. The second incident was the mofo who posted the KKK shit upon my windshield and put a gun in my face when I confronted him about it.
        The third incident was my stepping in to stop the escalation of a irate and very violent customer at a store who was throwing shit around, knocking over displays, ect, then went after a female store clerk who just so happened to be a friend of mine, not that it mattered who she was.
        He had a gun and I suspect was the only reason he acted the way he did. The police would only serve him a trespass warning, they didn't arrest him nor take his gun.
        The last incident came as a result of a homeless guy. He asked me for some money in front of a 7-11- I told him I'd take him in and buy whatever he wanted, and did. That offended some fat redneck camo (yes, that's for real, he was wearing camo) wearing piece of shit who confronted the two of us as we exited the store with a tirade of bullshit about how he wouldn't "give that piece of shit a fucking dime". When I told him it was none of his fucking business or his dime he got nastier to the point I told him to get out of my face and that my reach is 7' if he chose to continue,  "what, what, you want to do something you big motherfucker? I wish you would, and my concealed carry ..."
        I called 911 right then and there.
        Police came, police left. Since he didn't display his gun according to law, he had done nothing wrong.
        Yes, I was threatened for feeding a homeless guy by a law abiding responsible gun owner.
        And I am damn well sick of it and law abiding responsible gun owners, they are a threat and a menace. That is not an opinion or imagined, it is based upon one killing my kid, another shooting 3 and killing 2.
        No, you didn't miss a thing.
        Neither did I.

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    by teabaggerssuckbalz on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 06:20:19 AM PDT

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    •  All I can say here is that (3+ / 0-)

      I don't own, nor have ever owned a firearm.  I have defended myself and my family once with them, however, when I was 13 yrs old.  

      I'll reference you to this posting about that story:

      Hell, I point you to my family and our experiences with the American "justice" system we know only all too well, long before your child was born:

      I'm well aware of the consequences my support for the Right To Keep And Bear arms can bring, both imagined and real.

      And I'll finally point you to my diary on the subject.

      I don't care how easy it was for you to obtain your illegal weapons, really.  You have the instinctual/natural right of self-preservation with whatever tool you may deem necessary.

      The reality today is that many wish to deny you that right utilizing any firearm.

      As a convicted felon, you have already been denied said right when you violated the social order agreed upon by this "civilized" society.  Whatever your crime, it came with a price-tag.  From the anger, hostility and admitted continued criminal behaviors, is it any wonder why "We The People" said, "NO, you can't touch that?"

      You've also come to realize that our government has absolved itself of any responsibility to protect us.  You see, "The police have no constitutional duty to protect anyone", as per the Supreme Court.

      But for some reason, you'd have others suffer the same fate you have because,

      "I am damn well sick of it and law abiding responsible gun owners"
      ???  Ones that have not violated our social order should be subjected to your arbitrary wishes?

      That's not how our Constitutional Republic works, not yet anyways.

      Now, if you took the time to find out who I am, you'll realize that I'm not to blame for your life's issues. And the day you pull out your illegal firearms and pull the trigger, becoming a murderer, I still won't be to blame.

      And you know what? Since that fateful day when I was 13 yrs old, I've never felt the need to own a firearm.  Despite everything I've experienced, such as: the loss of an innocent and beautiful family member, being mugged, beaten, held up at gun point and even arrested... A GUN in my world will mean only one thing, I plan on killing someone with it.

      We all chose our own paths in this life, every single one of us.  I've chosen not to ever pull that trigger, even if it means I must die from that decision someday, that choice was always mine to make.

      I will not deny you freedom of choice, why would you deny it to anyone else?  Freedom is not for the weak, I guess.

      May you create the peace you so desperately need.

      Good luck.

      -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

      by gerrilea on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 01:50:51 PM PDT

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      •  Great response and I appreciate that you were so (2+ / 0-)
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        candid in doing so. Only one problem though, this:

        I will not deny you freedom of choice, why would you deny it to anyone else?  Freedom is not for the weak, I guess.
          I haven't nor would I even imply it.
           I do not believe in unfettered access to guns by whomever wants one any time anywhere 24/7, no. I am living proof that the system as it stands is useless. Nor do I believe that anyone who wants to go packing heat in public should be able to, no. Am I against guns? Hardly.
            Truth is I wouldn't even be here if it weren't for guns, literally. My dad was a stunt/trick shooter who was in a traveling show during the Depression. He pulled my mom from a crowd as a volunteer for a trick shot, it's how they met. My mom fought for and got  the first womens competitive shooting teams in college.
            I am very familiar with and comfortable with guns. I wish I could say the same about their owners.
            Freedomz include this little ditty about what the unalienable right to, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Gun owners need to respect those that choose not to own guns. One is deadly, the other, well, not so much. You know as well as I do that there are severe problems with just saying here's the guns, come and get 'em.
            When someone with 30+ felony charges over a decade but no convictions can buy and possess all they want? Legal? Maybe in the letter of the law but would you want that person having guns? Some seriously deranged folks running around with them just because they can.
            Just because they can can. That is hardly and will never be a good policy when you're talking deadly weapons, sorry.
            I too had an incident happen as a teenager but it fortunately only involved myself and the person I had to defend myself from and it also involved a gun. I don't take this gun thing lightly, never have, never will.
            You are certainly correct in that we chose our own paths in life, I am not out to shoot anyone either but apparently there are those that wouldn't think twice about doing so to me. There's only one reason to own a handgun and to say differently is a lie. I plan on moving from this redneck republican gun infested shithole, just have to make it out alive. Unfortunately law abiding responsible gun owners here have made it obvious to me that I need to rely on myself from them, not the police after the fact.
            Peace? I'll have some sense of what that is once I get the hell away from this gun sick place. What, 30 odd thousand and we have 5 gun stores and two pawn shops? Thats disgusting. That's the end result of the NRA push for more more more. I don't drink that flavor of Kool-Aid, sorry. Those that have and do can call it freedomz if they choose but the truth is they are the minority on here and in this country and i'm sure the kids of the next generation will want to know just WTF they were thinking and they will change that fact. I have confidence in the future leaders, the ones we have now? Name just 5 'good ones" of any stripe...


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        by teabaggerssuckbalz on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 07:22:39 PM PDT

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        •  Rec'd for conversation and honesty. (2+ / 0-)
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          I don't blame any one specific "party" or "group" for the violence our society perpetuates, I blame us all.  We are inundated with it from cartoons to video games to movies.  Hell, even our foreign policy is all about force and violence.  

          I too hope that we will learn to create a more peaceful society, one where no American feels the need to own a firearm, ever.  It took generations of Republican and Democratic policies to build this shameful "civil" society, guns didn't do it, they are just one of the symptoms when "We The People" are intentionally divided and taught to hate one another.  

          Banning guns will not stop this vicious and destructive path we're on.  When we decide to reunite as Americans, only then can we progressively move forward towards peace.  This doesn't mean we must wait, hell no, we can work towards that goal whenever we are confronted with that opportunity.  Teach and live peace.  Teach and live personal responsibility.  Give ourselves the tools necessary for success. When confronted with hate and violence, don't instinctually  react in kind, find a way to evolve beyond it.

          I know reality slaps us in the face at every moment it can and there are times when I've failed miserably at it myself.  It doesn't mean that we shouldn't try.

          I'm glad to hear that you've come up with a solution to the destructive environment you find yourself in.  Might I point out that if we don't change ourselves, it won't matter where you go, the problems are sure to follow.


          -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

          by gerrilea on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 08:12:28 PM PDT

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          •  Very true, the genie has left the bottle and there (0+ / 0-)

            is no stuffing it back in. It comes down to what do we do now that it has. I really don't know what the answer is but common sense tells me that it is not and will never be more guns and easier access to them.
                I have lived in a number of places as an adult. Phoenix, Az having been one of them. Open carry was bizarre to me. The billboards next to Black Canyon Freeway advertising the $69 AK-47 (here come the gunnies and the correct gun lingo- tough shit, it said EXACTLY that). The signs at the door of the banks, grocery stores, ect explaining what you could and could not do with your gun. Seeing people pulled over for a traffic ticket and the cop placing the cars occupants guns on the roof until he was done, then handing them back. Very bizarre shit to see  for some Ohio farm boy.
                I remember thinking that I was sure glad it wasn't that way all over the country because Phoenix at that time had a huge problem with gun violence and it was very apparent the direct correlation between their easy access and the prolific illegal use of them,
                I was in my car one morning just getting ready to pull out when a car came bouncing off of the access road to Black Canyon, through the fence and plow into a couple of parked cars about 50 feet from where I was. The screaming from the passenger was almost deafening in the wee hours of morning. Ran over to the car and here is this poor lady just wailing away, shaking the driver, a crying toddler in the rear seat of maybe 4.
               It was still dark out but the street lights were putting off good light where the car had stopped. I ran over to the drivers door and opened it. the driver just fell out, the screaming woman still attached, the kids wailing louder with the door open. The mans head was literally half gone and the scene reminded me of JFK's assassination, poor Jackie trying to get the piece of Johns skull that had been blown off.
               Obviously the man was dead. There were no cell phones to call anyone. Because they came across the access road it was not a heavily traveled or occupied area, especially at 3:30 in the morning. I was on my own with an dead man, his apparent frantic and distraught wife and that beautiful little girl peering over the seat watching the entire scene. The woman wouldn't respond to anything I asked, I wanted her and the baby to get away from the scene, come while I called the police from my apartment. She didn't respond.
                When I opened the door to get the little girl out she ran around the open doors and me to her daddy, "wake up, please Daddy, wake up". I have never in my life been in such a helplessly useless predicament- do I just snatch this girl up and take her kicking and screaming back to my apartment? Just leave them both?
               Choosing the latter I ran back to my apartment, made the call then ran back to the scene- no one else had heard or seen it apparently because there they both were, alone. crying and now covered head to toe in blood. It seemed like forever waiting for the cops to get there, I suppose it was merely minutes and thankfully they took over and literally dragged the woman and child away from the scene.
                I already knew that this was no typical accident but the cops rapidly confirmed it, the drivers side window was blown out, there were two bullet holes in the door and half of the victims right side of his head was gone. My being there of course made me a witness to the legalities although I was never called to court against the perpetrators.
                It did put me in contact with the Phoenix PD, Maricopa County Sheriff's Dept, as well as the FBI. All were investigating this as well as a number of other shootings that ended up purely random dumb ass shit for some Hispanic gang initiation. I forget the total once they were finally caught but I do recall one of the ones prior to this one was a pregnant woman.
                Having seen the anguish of that wife and daughter from that senseless act as it happened, as it played out in front of me was one of the most humanly gut wrenching things I have ever witnessed.
                Just a week ago some local piece of crap "father" was arrested for a crime they called "withholding information" in a case that involved :

            While he pleaded for his life, Roopnarine was shot in the face. That's when David Damus, 20, told his 15-year-old partner, Konrad Schafer, to stab their victim in the neck or cut his throat, according to arrest records released Tuesday by the Osceola County Sheriff's Office and St. Cloud and Kissimmee police departments.
            Four people — two teens and two young adults — were arrested Tuesday in connection with two shooting deaths linked to the same .45-caliber Hi-Point carbine also used in random shootings across Osceola County in recent weeks, law officials said. The firearm is similar to — but shorter than — a rifle.
            Schafer, the youngest, is accused of fatally shooting 17-year-old David Guerrero as the older teen walked to a bus stop in Kissimmee on his way to work on the morning of June 26, according to police.
            "He thought it would be fun to shoot Mr. Guerrero," said Kissimmee police Chief Lee Massie when announcing the arrests. "That's the type of individuals we put in jail today."
            Massie stressed repeatedly that Guerrero was just a teen trying to do the right thing when he was "picked off" by Schafer, who thought it would be cool.
            He took his piece of sht 15 year old son to a gun store and let him pick out that gun, a 45  Hi-Point and of course, bought a whp;e shitload of ammo to go with it.
               That piece of shit 15 year old used that gun that very same night to kill a 17 year old kid whom he had never met, randomly, for "fun", as he walked to work. The piece of shit father knew his piece of shit child killed the kid and not only did nothing, but didn't even bother taking away the gun and ammo. The piece of shit child went on a weeks long random shooting spree shooting into occupied homes late at night/early morning, terrorizing two entire counties by the sheer randomness of the targets. He went on to kill a second man. For fun.
                The great father will see no real time out of all of this, his charge is minor and unfortunately because his kid is a juvie he cannot be executed in this state.
                 I always hear 'no new laws, enforce the ones we already have'. Well, they are. That idiot took his 15 yr old to a gun store and let him pick out the gun he wanted to go on a killing spree with and the best they can do is charge his worthless, vile and stupid ass with is 'withholding information'?
                That's sick.
                When I looked at what was going on around me in Phoenix after witnessing the aftermath of one of the many freeway shootings that year it was very obvious to me what the problem was- too easy of access to guns, period. Had that car gone off the I-17 just a half a block away it would have hit that infamous gigantic billboard advertising those $69.99 AK-47's.
                 That happened in 1991, 22 years ago. The price may have certainly changed but the availability of them and all guns got much easier and almost rodent like in their massive proliferation. It is that massive proliferation caused by the ease in obtaining them that i'm against, not the guns themselves.
                 I will never in my life forget those screams, especially that little girl.
                 I cannot forget the knock on my door to inform me my little girl had been shot and killed.
                 And cannot help but wonder if she were screaming like that also as the piece of shit shot her over and over again.
                 I saw up close the damage a loose gun did to the wife and daughter of the victim in AZ, and I know full well the damage and repercussions a gun caused my own family.
                 If nothing can be done then there is no point in freedomz and this country truly sucks ass and will continue to run itself further and deeper into the cesspool. MOre and more guns only cause more and more misery.
                 Personally, I have seen enough

            Be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

            by teabaggerssuckbalz on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 03:20:08 AM PDT

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