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  •  NBC polls say public is 50/50....I just (5+ / 0-)

    don't believe this. NO one I have spoken with wants another front, for ANY reason.

    And while watching the news, a guest mentioned that only 10% of US public was for bombing Syria, and Wolf B. from CNN, QUICKLY  corrected him saying it was more like 49-50%.

    I call foul! Bull!

    •  What happened to 9%? nt (0+ / 0-)

      Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

      by k9disc on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 11:55:05 AM PDT

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      •  Depends on how question is worded (6+ / 0-)

        or at least that's usually the case. If you word the question carefully, and you count everything from even-steven/neutral to strongly agree as "support the President," you can get the numbers up to 50% on just about anything.
         

      •  That 9% was for a scenario (3+ / 0-)

        that did not include confirmation of Syrian gov. using CW on civilians.

        Q2. As you may have heard, there is fighting in Syria between government forces and anti-government groups. In your opinion, should the United States intervene in Syria, or not?

        Aug 19-23 Should intervene:9%
        Aug 26-30 Should intervene:20%

        Here the key question from that poll:
        Q3. There have recently been reports of the Syrian government using chemical weapons such as Sarin Gas against protestors. In your opinion, if the Syrian government is using chemical weapons against Syrians, should the United States intervene in Syria, or not?

        Aug 19-23 Should intervene:25%
        Aug 26-30 Should intervene:29%

        So, in that original Ipsos/Reuters poll, on the question including Assad using CW, it actually had 25%.

        But here's the catch. They redid that poll, and even after widespread reporting of Assad using CW, the number still only rose 4% to 29%.

        That's still 20 whole points under NBC's bogus pollaganda.

        •  Oh Yeah (1+ / 0-)
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          here's the NBC version:

          It has been reported that the Syrian government has used chemical weapons on its citizens. Do you think the United States should take military action against the Syrian government in response to the use of chemical weapons or not?

          Yes, should take military action .................. 42
          No, should not take military action.............. 50
          Not sure .................................................... 8

          That's practically a push poll.
    •  You haven't been paying attention. (3+ / 0-)
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      By changing the wording of the question, you can get positive responses from 10% to well over 50%.

      Of course, everyone thinks the most valid wording is the one that supports the percentage that confirms what they already believe.

      "They smash your face in, and say you were always ugly." (Solzhenitsyn)

      by sagesource on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 12:27:14 PM PDT

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    •  Polls are not the count that matters.. (3+ / 0-)
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      they move all the time depending on the framing of the question. Dont believe any polls until after the vote is taken.

      This is also crucial to Democracy. Let the PROCESS work. Focus on the process and making it fair and open. Dont worry about the ever changing numbers. That is for Nate Silver to worry about.

      The rest of us just need to be heard now. I am actually in favor of some sort of costly, to Assad, intervention. I will be speaking in favor of that. Good luck to your side, and may the best arguments win.

      Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

      by OregonOak on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 12:27:28 PM PDT

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    •  Cable News Media must haz warz. (2+ / 0-)
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      driftwood, Fixed Point Theorem

      If the world were at peace, the ratings of CNN, NBC and FOX news would plummet.

      I don't watch CNN anymore, and I certainly can't watch more than five seconds of "The Obama and Trayvon Martin Haters News Channel."

      I listen to public radio and the internet, because they don't need to exploit our troops to get their material.

      This time I'm not watching any in-bedded journalists chumming around with troops that are about to die.  No ratings from me!

    •  75% of the French are also opposed. (0+ / 0-)

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