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  •  I would add.... (21+ / 0-)

    ....that some of the commentators here make it much easier for me to understand why the US has the most dysfunctional, disunited, and impotent left in the entire developed world. You can't march forward into the future with a confident step if you keep on shooting your toes off.

    It's just pathetic when you see people who loudly demanded Obama put the entire matter to Congress, since they were stupidly sure he wouldn't dare, now turn around and say it doesn't matter if it goes before Congress because the fix is in anyway. If that's true, why did they want it put before Congress in the first place?

    "They smash your face in, and say you were always ugly." (Solzhenitsyn)

    by sagesource on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 12:20:55 PM PDT

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    •  Dude, there are those who nail it, and those who (4+ / 0-)
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      really nail it.

      Guess which category ol' Wildthumb puts YOU in?

      "They come, they come To build a wall between us We know they won't win."--Crowded House, "Don't Dream It's Over."

      by Wildthumb on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 12:26:21 PM PDT

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    •  And another thing: I read your response to my wife (1+ / 0-)
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      (hey, a high compliment!) and she said "it's nice to hear something rational from someone on Kos."

      "They come, they come To build a wall between us We know they won't win."--Crowded House, "Don't Dream It's Over."

      by Wildthumb on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 01:34:02 PM PDT

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    •  Not arguing with this. (0+ / 0-)
      US has the most dysfunctional, disunited, and impotent left in the entire developed world
      But it's not because WE are "loony" or don't buy into this BS about American "exceptionalism". It's not because WE fail to "get with the program" when the president calls us to war.

      Some reasons I can think of . . .

      1) Multiple episodes of repression in the past against socialist & communist movements, which effectively deprived the political left of energy & intellectual heft.

      2) Rightist nationalism always trumps leftist internationalism.

      3) Our sclerotic duopoly of political parties effectively quashes any serious challenges to the status quo.

      4) The power & political muscle of the corporate & business lobbies.

      5) Ever since 1979, the peace movement has been virtually politically untouchable.

      6) Race trumps class. In the U.S. it has always been thus.

      Bottom line: one can be as far to the right as one wants & still be taken seriously within our country's political establishment. But on the left one must mince words & stay between the lines - lines that have been drawn pretty far to the right.

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