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  •  lately I have become aware (12+ / 0-)

    that there is always talk about the people killed by the Assad government:

    By any estimate, the civilian death toll at the hands of Bashar al-Assad's regime is staggering, and millions have been displaced. The use of gas against civilians is seen by many to breach an atrocity threshold -- killing hundreds of people (more than 1,400, according to U.S. government evidence). Even without chemical weapons, a strong case could be and has been made for doing something to stop the slaughter.
    What about all the people killed by the rebels. There is news available, but over the last few days in the talk about the US revenge attack, the victims of the rebels are never mentioned.

    Read the European view at the European Tribune

    by fran1 on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 07:04:58 AM PDT

    •  The rebels have become (13+ / 0-)

      the designated "good guys". They are also killing each other, but that doesn't fit the political script.

      •  With hundreds - literally - of rebel groups (0+ / 0-)

        often killing each other and civilians on all sides, as you mentioned, there are no two sides about this.

        That's one of the biggest issues casual US observers fail to realize:  It is not about evil Assad against one group of good guys.  It is about evil Assad against all sorts of evil bad guys who are fighting everyone.... with a few decent civilians trying to survive in the crossfire.

        There's no way a simplistic strike of 200 -300 cruise missiles is going to do any good for anyone in that type of situation. It will only add 300 more explosions to the monthly count of killing.

        "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

        by YucatanMan on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 12:55:23 PM PDT

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    •  This ^ This (7+ / 0-)

      cannot be emphasized enough! They're outright lying when they say he killed 100,000 ("of his own people", mind you, as if that's worse than killing others?).
      It's a goddamned war and both sides are killing people.

      "When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two." - Nisargadatta Maharaj.

      by mkor7 on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 07:30:27 AM PDT

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    •  The death total often cited includes all killed (2+ / 0-)
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      fran1, YucatanMan

      not those killed by one side. It's a bloody, ruthless war. Lots of people are caught in the crossfire. Just as in all wars, even the "good" ones, the combatants aren't primarily concerned about civilians. They are mostly concerned about not getting killed.

      War is evil.

      There's none so blind as those that will not see. --Jonathan Swift

      by chuckvw on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 10:16:43 AM PDT

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