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  •  we're not seeing (5+ / 0-)

    a whole lot of reports of how well things are going in Libya, are we . . .

    Not a stable and blooming "democracy", is it . . .

    Probably a lot of Libyans now thinking (as a lot of Iraqis do about Saddam) that whatever Gaddafi's flaws (and there were many) the place was still better off with him than it is now without him.

    Chaos in Iraq.  Chaos in Libya.  Chaos in Syria. Almost chaos in Egypt.  See a pattern?  See a plan ? ? ?

    Fake Left, Drive Right . . . not my idea of a Democrat . . .

    by Deward Hastings on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 06:01:39 PM PDT

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    •  Yea, and Hitler made the trains run on time (1+ / 0-)
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      You never trust a millionaire/Quoting the sermon on the mount/I used to think I was not like them/But I'm beginning to have my doubts -- The Arcade Fire

      by tomjones on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 07:10:27 PM PDT

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      •  You do know that Libya's oil output is now down (1+ / 0-)
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        to 150,000 bpd compared to last years 1,600,000 bpd? Unless this increases very soon, the Libyan government will not be able to pay for its massive public sector. Nothing gets people riled up as much as when they don't receive their entitlements. Qaddafi had doubled them before he was buggered. The new government dare not reduce them.

        The pot is starting to boil again in Libya. There is a low level civil war going on right now.

        How militias took control of post-Gaddafi Libya
        August 24, 2013

        Toppling Muammar Gaddafi created a security vacuum that the new government filled with former freedom fighters. Now the trick is convincing them to put down their weapons.
        “In Kremia, the [militia] people said to us, ‘either you endorse the Isolation Law or we slaughter you,’” Congressman Abdurrahman Shater told me later. “Not kill you — slaughter you. You know the difference? Killing is by shooting. Slaughter is…” He trailed off, dragging his finger across his throat. “This is terrible.”

        Congress refused to vote under threat of force and after 12 hours the siege was lifted. As the president of Congress, Mohammed al-Megarif, drove off, militias opened fire on his convoy. A few weeks later, militias turned out in force, surrounding government ministries and threatening to storm parliament, pressuring the Isolation Law’s passage.

        Rather than a more moderate law that would apply based on an individual’s conduct under the regime, the version that passed cuts wide and deep across Libyan society, and makes no exception for those who played a significant role in the revolution. It has drawn widespread international criticism. According to a recent op-ed by William Lawrence, a former US State Department official in Libya, “the law not only further weakens already weak institutions, it could cripple them.”

      •  actually, that's supposed to have been (0+ / 0-)

        Mussolini, not Hitler (German trains always ran on time), and it's not true anyway.

        And Jesus didn't do trains at all.

        You need to do a bit of work on that ignorance thing of yours . . .

        Fake Left, Drive Right . . . not my idea of a Democrat . . .

        by Deward Hastings on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 08:28:41 PM PDT

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