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  •  The structure could also be read to suggest (4+ / 0-)

    that we know that it was carried out by the Syrian Arumy.

    And just by the way, to you and ogthers, you know that the UN has not finished their testing, right? I mean, there have been tons of CONCLUSIVE reports, but...

    •  I'm not advocating that there is conclusive proof (3+ / 0-)

      that the Syrian Army carried out the attack, nor do I necessarily think that a strike against Syrian targets as punishment is either a given nor all that good an idea...

      ...I'm merely pointing out that the basis of your satire in this post is an event that didn't happen, not one where the perp is in question...

      Down that path, confusion resides...

      "In a nation ruled by swine, all pigs are upward mobile..." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

      by Jack K on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 06:35:35 PM PDT

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      •  So, the focus here belongs on (3+ / 0-)
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        me and the fact that I could have structured my satire better? Even if you get the point?

        And P.S. again: We don't actually know the details of what happened yet. Does THAT matter?

        •  We may not know 100% who did it, but: (1+ / 0-)
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          We don't actually know the details of what happened yet. Does THAT matter?
          We do have the German, French, British, and American intelligence services all saying that, with high confidence, they conclude that it was the Assad Regime.  And they're basing this in lots of information and are being quite open in their sharing of this information.

          We also know that chemical weapons like Sarin are very hard to mix and deploy, and that they basically simultaneously hit 7 or more different rebel-held parts of the suburbs.  That shows a level of expertise in deployment that only well-trained cw troops have, which the rebels are not.

          We are 100% certain that the Assad Regime has one of the largest chemical weapons arsenals in the world.  We also know that both the Obama Administration and the Syrian Regime have stated that the cw stockpiles are "safe", ie. have not fallen into rebel hands yet, which makes it even less likely that rebels could pull this off.

          I understand a certain level of mistrust after the Bush I and Bush II lies, and I share that mistrust, but at some point one has to face the reality that a horrible autocratic regime most likely has used chemical weapons.


          "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

          by Lawrence on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 07:53:13 PM PDT

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          •  Respectfully, I find this: (0+ / 0-)
            We also know that both the Obama Administration and the Syrian Regime have stated that...
            I can't think of a ward. Honestly. The Syrians are a source?
          •  McClatchy: (1+ / 0-)
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            WASHINGTON — The Obama administration’s public case for attacking Syria is riddled with inconsistencies and hinges mainly on circumstantial evidence, undermining U.S. efforts this week to build support at home and abroad for a punitive strike against Bashar Assad’s regime.

            The case Secretary of State John Kerry laid out last Friday contained claims that were disputed by the United Nations, inconsistent in some details with British and French intelligence reports or lacking sufficient transparency for international chemical weapons experts to accept at face value.

            After the false weapons claims preceding the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, the threshold for evidence to support intervention is exceedingly high. And while there’s little dispute that a chemical agent was used in an Aug. 21 attack outside of Damascus – and probably on a smaller scale before that – there are calls from many quarters for independent, scientific evidence to support the U.S. narrative that the Assad regime used sarin gas in an operation that killed 1,429 people, including more than 400 children.

            Some of the U.S. points in question:


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