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  •  yes, but i don't hybridize with bacteria now do I? (2+ / 0-)
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    I really enjoyed your straw man, the bacteria and integration into the human organism bit.
    The expression of genes as complex as coloration and the metabolic mechanisms required to construct complex proteins needed to make vitamins is not something that an organism acquires by gene transfer through randomly acquiring bits floating in the plasma, a histone here a histone there.  We host bits of DNA from bacteria that helps facilitate our co-existence, a sort of symbiosis, but that's not the same as placing an entirely novel, complex set of genetic material inside a non-symbiotic organism, is it?
    thanks for the snotty insult

    •  Yes, you do hybridize with bacteria (0+ / 0-)

      and viruses, too ( the latter massively, about 8% of the human genome is viral in origin, which dwarfs the actual protein coding sequences)

      Just for the record, most of the viral DNA is NOT symbiotic thus completely obliterating your "that's not the same as placing entirely novel, complex set of genetic material inside a non-symbiotic organism" argument.

      The internet's free to read you know, you could probably go out there and learn some of this on your own . . . .

      •  that's just not true (0+ / 0-)

        i am not a partial-bacteria partial-human organism.  The fact that human DNA includes bacterial and viral DNA does not mean that we are "hybrid" organisms.  Unless you want to mean that every organism on earth is a hybrid, at which point trying to differentiate hybridization becomes pointless.  That's just argumentative, and does nothing to further the discussion about the benefits and drawbacks of GMO technologies.

        •  This is exactly the point (1+ / 0-)
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          Unless you want to mean that every organism on earth is a hybrid,
          every organism on this planet exists amid a cloud of genes that can fairly easily (and naturally!) transfer back and forth, even across kingdom barriers.

          Thus, the idea the so-called GMO crops are unnatural is patently absurd and just down-right an un-scientific notion.  

          But even if they were, so what?   The computer that you're reading this post on is also unnatural, does that mean a bunch of nitwits should start smashing it with hammers?  British Intelligence agents, excepted of course.

        •  Oh, but you are. (0+ / 0-)

          Your "bible" -- whatever it may be -- may not say that, but the science says otherwise.

          LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

          by dinotrac on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 07:22:02 PM PDT

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