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  •  The proposed AUMF is as open ended as the (2+ / 0-)
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    AUMF for the War OF Terror.  There will be no limited strikes.

    •  That is the really frightening thing (1+ / 0-)
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      And it's not even limited to Syria. Need to bomb Iran to get at the supply of CW? Authorized. There is not time limit either. Two years from now, need to bomb someone something something chemical weapons? Authorized!!!

      It's as bad, if not worse than the war on terror authorization.

      The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived, and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. --John F. Kennedy

      by CenPhx on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 09:43:28 AM PDT

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      •  I do believe Obama is trying to reverse some of (0+ / 0-)

        them because it doesn't add up. Obama is up to something else besides just the bombing. There more going on here then people realize.

        Wisdom is the result of knowledge through reason and understanding of common sense. Do you have Wisdom or seek it?

        by LonelyPagan1 on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 10:11:46 AM PDT

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        •  Well, I hope you are right (0+ / 0-)

          But I have to decide whether I want to support this military action or lobby my reps hard against it based on the information I have, not based on my hope that Obama has a more humanitarian agenda than I can discern from the current info.

          And to be honest, I don't trust any arguments about gut instincts about President Obama, because before Libya and now Syria, I would've thought he was against US military adventurism. He was when he was running for office. But now that he is in office, I think his position has changed. So I can't trust anything but the hard and cold facts.

          The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived, and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. --John F. Kennedy

          by CenPhx on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 10:42:32 AM PDT

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          •  The reality of the Presidency has a way... (0+ / 0-)

            "...before Libya and now Syria, I would've thought he was against US military adventurism. He was when he was running for office. But now that he is in office, I think his position has changed."

            ...of complicating those campaign positions.  In 2008, everybody projected onto Obama whatever they wanted him to be.  Hillary, for all her warts, was a known quantity.  Obama was a relatively blank slate, and could be whatever we wanted him to be.

            Turned out, he's at best a cautious and weak conservadem.  At worst, he's a neocon tool of the Powers that Be.  And, after we found this out, we elected him again.  Thank the GOP that they couldn't find anyone better to run than Mitt Romney and the two clowns (Gingrich and Santorum) he beat in the primary.

        •  Here's one potential possibility (0+ / 0-)

          Getting us deeper into debt with yet another unconstitutional and illegal war means they have to find money somewhere to pay for the valid expenses to run the government - and to give to their friends at Casino Wall Street who will promptly funnel the money to offshore accounts (remember Enron?).  Down the line we won't be able to get loans to finance any more illegal and unconstitutional wars..., so the only place to get the money is the ONE fund that has a surplus:  Social Security Trust Fund.

          I think we are in for the screwing of our lives (and I don't mean that in a good way).  George Carlin was a prophet:


          I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

          by NonnyO on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 10:16:01 PM PDT

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