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View Diary: Pew: 48% of Americans oppose airstrikes on Syria, with only 29% in favor. 54% want U.N. resolution (248 comments)

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  •  When is someone going to tell these (1+ / 0-)
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    Lib Dem FoP

    Americans waiting for a UN resolution that there will be no UN resolution?  Haven't they been paying attention to anything over the past decade at least?  As long as the Security Council retains its current dysfunctional makeup, we will not be backed up in doing anything by that body.

    China and Russia will oppose the fact that we breathe the same air that they do...

    •  So unless they're a rubber stamp (2+ / 0-)
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      JesseCW, CenPhx

      we don't go through the UN?   Mmmmkay...

      The tent got so big it now stands for nothing.

      by Beelzebud on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 03:42:30 PM PDT

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    •  So why bother with international institutions at (2+ / 0-)
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      all if you don't respect the views of people in other parts of the world?

      Together, China and Russia represent a significant number of the world's people. Shouldn't they have a voice too?

    •  What is with all the anti-China Russia nonsense? (2+ / 0-)
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      JesseCW, CenPhx

      China and Russia side with us on Security Council resolutions that they agree with.    We are in a pretty bad place to be disagreeing with the idea of Security Council vetoes (cough Israel cough.)

      •  Exactly (1+ / 0-)
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        Montanamarine has identified exactly the problem we are in and Orcas has identified exactly the problem the USA faces in changing the position.

        The doctrine of humanitarian intervention - against which any action will have to be measured - was only introduced and became part of international law through practice because of a very similar impasse at the UNSC over Kosovo.

        The Permanent Members' veto at the UNSC must be diluted but be aware of the effect that this will have on US policy in the Middle East and its support of Israel more or less ever since they were called out over their attack on Egypt in 1956 in collusion with the French and British.  

        We will work, we will play, we will laugh, we will live. We will not waste one moment, nor sacrifice one bit of our freedom, because of fear.

        by Lib Dem FoP on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 06:46:04 PM PDT

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        •  I am perfectly fine (0+ / 0-)

          with getting out of bed with Israel, and I say that as a supporter of the Jewish state.  I am on board with 90% of what they do (although I do tend to think that they get a bit paranoid about existential threats - come on people, you have nukes.  You can take care of yourselves on your postage stamp of real estate), but the settlement thing is something I just can't get past...

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