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  •  People on this site like to talk him up (3+ / 0-)
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    as a target, but IIRC it's an R+7ish district in suburbia, and those sorts of districts tend to vote more Republican downballot.

    •  "This site" (1+ / 0-)
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      largely referring to DK, not DKE.

      •  I was thinking of this (0+ / 0-)

        argument the other day--that it's just hard for Democrats to win suburban districts, or at least suburban districts in states that aren't very blue to begin with.

        "At this point, if the president came out in favor of breathing, [Republican leaders would] tell their caucus members to hold their breaths."--Jared Bernstein

        by bjssp on Thu Sep 05, 2013 at 10:36:52 AM PDT

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        •  The district also includes a lot of exurban areas (0+ / 0-)

          Henrico County is a Richmond suburb that has shifted quite a bit to the left in recent years.  Bush won it 54-46 in 2004, and Obama carried it 55-43 last year.  However, VA-07 contains the GOP areas plus a lot of very red exurban counties.  

          23, male, CA-18 (home and voting there), LA-02 (resident).

          by Jeff Singer on Thu Sep 05, 2013 at 10:44:19 AM PDT

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        •  suburbs used to be very difficult (2+ / 0-)
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          but by now a lot of the older suburbs have gone blue. In the newer suburbs and generally in the South this is not the case as often.

          15 years ago pretty much all of Portland's suburbs were represented by Republicans n the legislature, for example, and only a few are now. There's at least one suburb in each of the main counties that is above D+10, and only a few of the outer ones, which have grown the most in recent years, still have Republican-leaning PVIs. There are a lot of other metro areas where you see similar change over the last couple decades.

          On the other hand you hear about the "circle of ignorance" surrounding places like Milwaukee, Cincinnati, etc., where it just hasn't happened to that extent. If you look at cities in the South, whether we're talking big metropolises like Atlanta, or smaller cities like Little Rock, and they may be moving towards us in Atlanta as the suburbs are diversifying, but are generally deeply Republican.

          ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

          by James Allen on Thu Sep 05, 2013 at 12:19:04 PM PDT

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          •  Milwaukee (3+ / 0-)
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            Milwaukee's older suburbs have indeed largely turned blue--but those are the ones in Milwaukee county, not in the circle. Milwaukee county outside of Milwaukee proper has 356k people compared to 612k for the circle, and according to the Census bureau the Milwaukee county suburbs are actually growing faster.

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            by sacman701 on Thu Sep 05, 2013 at 01:41:30 PM PDT

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            •  New suburbs (0+ / 0-)

              are growing faster?

              "At this point, if the president came out in favor of breathing, [Republican leaders would] tell their caucus members to hold their breaths."--Jared Bernstein

              by bjssp on Thu Sep 05, 2013 at 01:46:28 PM PDT

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              •  Franklin and Oak Creek (MKE) are growing fairly (5+ / 0-)

                fast, whereas Brookfield and New Berlin (Wauke$ha) are growing slower.

                Also, not all the MKE County suburbs are getting bluer. The North Shore ones (Shorewood, Bayside, etc.) are plus Wauwatosa. But, West Alis, Greenfield and Greendale have gotten more Republican over the years.

                Gay farm boy, 21, who hit the city to go to college, WI-03 (home, voting), WI-02 (college), -5.88, -3.64, 2012 Daily Kos Elections Pick'Em runner-up.

                by WisJohn on Thu Sep 05, 2013 at 01:54:04 PM PDT

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            •  thanks (0+ / 0-)

              I don't know much about the particulars there.

              ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

              by James Allen on Thu Sep 05, 2013 at 03:08:03 PM PDT

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