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  •  The logic tree from Kaiser may only be (0+ / 0-)

    for US residents.  Americans living abroad fall into other pieces of the law not often dealt with by the well meaning authors of these aids.

    InAntalya wrote a nice diary on the topc recently.  I found this bit from a proposed IRA rule (Jan. 2013):

    ...an individual who resides abroad for an entire calendar year is treated as having minimum essential coverage for each month of that calendar year regardless of whether the individual has health coverage of any type.
    See the diary and comments for more.  I'm linking my comment so you can see the source of this snippet in context of the discussion.  From there you can navigate to the diary, other comments and sources.

    I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

    by Satya1 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 at 07:21:42 AM PDT

    •  If I lived in a foreign country I wouldn't need (2+ / 0-)
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      Obamacare.

      Still trying to figure out how to pay for a trip to get teeth worked on.

      Foreign medical care costs so little it's affordable.

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      by ban nock on Sun Sep 08, 2013 at 07:40:50 AM PDT

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      •  exactly: (1+ / 0-)
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        If I lived in a foreign country I wouldn't need Obamacare.
        Many have the government plan of the country they reside in and have been doing far better than any of us.  lol.

        Many of them aren't even following the implementation of ACA.

        But some people who have permanent residence outside the US, might have concerns (as did InAntalya) about whether the IRS (or whichever agency) would sock them with the penalty for not joining ACA.

        I threw that comment out there in case DK ex pats or folks who know them had those concerns.

        I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

        by Satya1 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 at 10:49:04 AM PDT

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    •  Again, there are gaps, however (0+ / 0-)

      looking at this instance, even without any personal knowledge of the numbers of people affected negatively, I would think that most Americans living abroad are there at the behest of large corporates in the US - rather they have company insurance.  I know that's the case for most of the people I know in Houston who work abroad in the oil & gas industry.  Some of them are contractors who have their own private insurance.  None of them are people without means.  

      So who is left?  Young people who volunteer to teach or do social justice work for non-profits?  Reporters and writers like Greenwald?  Who are the workers abroad who are negatively impacted?- and by negatively I mean they have a situation already that will be made worse by ACA.  Not receiving benefits from ACA is not a negative impact in my opinion, as things stay the same for that person.  If they made their own choice to live and work in another country that has no healthcare safety net without purchasing coverage themselves,  I am not concerned for them as they made that personal choice before Obamacare.  

      We are all in this together.

      by htowngenie on Sun Sep 08, 2013 at 09:55:07 AM PDT

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