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  •  The CDC handed the mandate to outside experts (4+ / 0-)
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    I can easily imagine that they wanted to achieve a high level of impartiality so they used two levels of peer selection and review.

    The time frame was very, very short so HJB's suggestion about availability makes sense to me.

    "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

    by LilithGardener on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 12:22:32 PM PDT

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    •  Well (1+ / 0-)
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      The optics are a huge issue so no wonder this is what happened. Regardless of the reasons why it ended up the way it did, though, the net result appears to be weak tea. Too bad, but I guess we can't expect a lot more given the fact that the NRA runs the Congress, and they fund the CDC. I can imagine what the internal perspectives are on it though.

      •  I'm not sure what you mean by weak tea nt (0+ / 0-)

        "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

        by LilithGardener on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 12:46:22 PM PDT

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        •  That it is not (2+ / 0-)
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          issuing any recommendations of anything very wide sweeping, legislatively speaking. It is sticking to a very narrow framework and staying away from addressing the big changes that could make a difference.

          •  Do you see that the purpose was to identify (5+ / 0-)

            how to prioritize research funds?

            The report is very dry, in the language the scientists use to describe correlations that need further study. "There is a correlation by cause and effect is not clear." Is that what you mean by weak tea?

            In the age of austerity all research budgets have been cut. I'd like to see more research re alcohol/guns and fatigue/guns. We know know re driving that drowsy driving is as bad as driving drunk, but it took decades or research and public education to implement change.

            "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

            by LilithGardener on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 01:04:50 PM PDT

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            •  Most IOM reports (2+ / 0-)
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              don't tackle topics that have the possibility of being very political (e.g., preterm delivery, etc.) so this one is kind of unusual. I work in the field so I understand how an epidemiologic literature review would be expected to couch things (so no, that is not what I meant by weak tea), but it appears to have been a missed opportunity (although again without a close reading at this point). Yes I would like to see lots more research on a variety of aspects, but I feel like there is a significant hole here, which might be due to who was on the panel. The public health approach does not demand that alternative (macro level) preventive measures could not be included; CDC recommendations on fluoridation of water are an example.

              But it's better than nothing.

              •  Looking forward to your further comments (2+ / 0-)
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                Joy of Fishes, WakeUpNeo

                when you have had time to dig into it. My background is chemistry so all of this is really "soft science" to me.

                "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

                by LilithGardener on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 01:22:33 PM PDT

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            •  Weak tea (2+ / 0-)
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              LilithGardener, XenuLives

              is when kids are dying and major government enterprises spend their time identifying how to prioritize research funds.

              •  And state governments pass laws to gag doctors nt (0+ / 0-)

                "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

                by LilithGardener on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 09:14:19 PM PDT

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