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  •  and you act as if the government does it all the (0+ / 0-)

    time which I think is at best absurd.

    I've argued before that the biggest reform the NSA needs is greater transparency because while I doubt there is anything 'there' to see other then an organization preforming it's duties the secrecy breeds CT like nothing else.

    •  If They've Done It At All (2+ / 0-)
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      StrayCat, stevemb

      Then I have no faith that once do-able it would be put up on the shelf never to be touched again. I don't have that kind of belief in the kindness of strangers.

      The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

      by The Lone Apple on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 08:25:31 AM PDT

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    •  the NSA has done little to deserve our trust (4+ / 0-)
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      stevemb, StrayCat, boophus, rlochow

      They have repeatedly claimed to not be doing things which they've later been revealed to have done.  Domestic surveillance, cyberstalking, tapping domestic phone calls, tampering with private sector software...

    •  Two ifs (1+ / 0-)
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      If the government did it all the time, we'd all know it, and we'd not be having this discussion (or any other discussion).

      If the government never did it, we'd have utopia.

      The reality is, I suspect, somewhere between these two ifs.

      And we need controls in place to prevent the random abuse from becoming the SOP.

      Bruce in Louisville
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      by bmaples on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 09:02:54 AM PDT

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