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  •  And don't forget (2+ / 0-)
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    maryabein, Roadbed Guy

    the Other Side is said to = Al Queda.

    SOOOO, you know, let's just join forces with them, huh?


    This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

    by lunachickie on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 08:26:56 AM PDT

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    •  That's exactly what I'm talking about. (2+ / 0-)
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      OHdog, appledown

      They're trying to find a solution that won't totally destroy the counterforce to the al Qaeda elements.
      Otherwise we'd just be supporting them and they'd win easily.

      The ideal situation would be
      Assad leaves
      the Syrian army is saved from annihilation, they take defensive positions and stop clearing neighborhoods
      there is a cease fire
      the CW is secured so it can't be used in a "final battle"
      safe havens for humanitarian relief.

      It's possible that strikes on radar, airfields,etc. could bring the Syrian army to heel.

      The problem is what will Russia and Iran/Hezbollah do about it.

      You can't make this stuff up.

      by David54 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 08:36:17 AM PDT

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    •  Well, it wouldn't be the first time that (1+ / 0-)
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      we supported "Al Queda"  . .. . .

      I'd post more, but I see a rerun of one of my favorite movies of all time - namely Charley Wilson's War - is about to start.

    •  This is totally unfair (0+ / 0-)

      to the opposition. While I read that the currently most effective units are radial Sunnis, they are still a minority of the opposition forces. There are credible reports of fighting between those radical groups and the Kurds in the north and native Syrians in other areas.

      There's plenty of reasons for opposing intervention without tarring all the opposition as jihadists.

      47 is the new 51!

      by nickrud on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 10:37:35 AM PDT

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      •  I agree completely , according to what I"ve (0+ / 0-)

        heard, a portion of the rebels are foreign jihadis. The problem is that we are not supporting those, or at least we're trying to not support them, so they are receiving support from Islamist elements in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, etc.
        However, given the 43 years of dictatorship, the other Sunnis in Syria (a majority of the population) may fall into a pattern of revenge if the army falls. If that happens, then the CW probably will get used in a last ditch effort by the Assads to stay in power.

        What would be best for  the people of Syria as well as the broader sunni/shia middle east from Lebanon to Iran would be a stalemate and cease fire including the list above. Even Hezbollah and Iran would benefit from this.

        You can't make this stuff up.

        by David54 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 11:40:55 AM PDT

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    •  The other side is said to equal Al Qaeda ... (0+ / 0-)

      ... by people who oversimplify complex situations because they can only cope with simple situations.

      There are Al Qaeda "franchise" fighters in the rebellion. There are Kurdish fighters in the rebellion. There are moderate Islamic forces in the rebellion.

      Its not a simple enough rebellion for it to "=" any one thing.

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      by BruceMcF on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 12:15:39 PM PDT

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