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  •  It's funny, I get that response (7+ / 0-)

    most often from the right wing business owners I contact in my work with StopRush.  "If you don't like it, change the channel" (and "you fucking communist Libtard" is often the epilogue)  Don't hear that so much from progressives who are interested in working toward solutions.

    Proud sniveling jerk--working overtime to hold Rush Limbaugh accountable. -->> http://stoprush.net

    by ProgLegs on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 02:43:09 PM PDT

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    •  what comes from getting rid of Rush? (0+ / 0-)

      Some other gasbag takes his place until the old white dudes die off and there aren't enough listeners to support a right wing gasbag show.

      MSNBC didn't have enough viewers to support a liberal block of shows and now they do. People didn't all of a sudden change their minds. Instead we have more people who were raised in a more liberal society and they will embrace a smart lesbian and a bookish liberal nerd. In 2000 I don't think MSNBC would have had enough viewers to support Maddow and Hayes, now they do. Ask yourself what changed.

      I sing praises in the church of nonsense, but in my heart I'm still an atheist, demanding sense of all things.

      by jbou on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 02:53:14 PM PDT

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      •  Yes, (5+ / 0-)
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        but the next gasbag might be just a little less brash, arrogant and bigoted if he sees that as the cause of Rush's demise.

        I don't understand your displeasure with StopRush. Aren't we all here to try to counter the lies, distortions and bigotry that comes out of the Right Wing Propaganda Factory. We are not going to get it to go away completely but at least we can hold a light to it.

        The world is a den of thieves and night is falling. -Ingmar Bergman

        by Pirogue on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 04:49:32 PM PDT

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        •  no... (0+ / 0-)

          I find it stupid that we waste the effort to fight anything this moron says. I find it galling that anyone takes anything he says seriously. I think the day anyone above Rush in the power foodchain mentioned his dumb ass and validated him was a huge mistake. Rush is a clown, a buffoon and a moron. That is what we should have called him from day one. He should have been dismissed as a scum sucking scat munching loser.

          We created these right wing monsters by reacting to them and by reacting we gave them validation.

           I live by the motto if you're whining you ain't winning. We spend way too much time whining about shit the other side says.

          I sing praises in the church of nonsense, but in my heart I'm still an atheist, demanding sense of all things.

          by jbou on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 05:07:01 PM PDT

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          •  You are certainly within your rights to (2+ / 0-)
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            find it stupid to fight against Limbaugh's insanity. But I also have the right to respectfully think you are wrong and here's my reason:

            The battle to promote the ideals we mostly share on Daily Kos is one that is being fought in the arena of public opinion, that is to say, it is a propaganda war for the hearts and minds of American voters. A good case can be made for the idea that the chief propagandist for the ultra-right wing is Rush Limbaugh and he has one central tactic that has served him well in the past as well as the present. He continues to escalate the outrage until he provokes a response from the media. But to ignore him is to allow him to continue to escalate with impunity. He won't stop until he can't be ignored and if the response from the left gives him validation as you claim, a failure of anyone to stand up to his bigotry and hatred validates it to an even greater degree. This aura of validity is compounded if he has the commercial backing of a large number of the country's most substantial business concerns.

            It is my humble opinion that the StopRush strategy of endeavoring to deprive him of that source of perceived substance by undermining his commercial support is an entirely reasonable goal and, it seems, one that is quite effective. This is why I support and applaud their efforts. If his sponsors are limited to boiler rooms peddling over-priced gold medallions and discount Viagra then his stature is greatly reduced from the time when his sponsors were major American corporations.    

            I share your opinion of the man, but I think that he needs to be openly and vigorously opposed and the corruption and bigotry need to be exposed to the light of day. I remember as a child watching the McCarthy hearings on television and I also remember that he employed the same tactic of escalation until the media responded. He was allowed to operate with impunity and escalate with impunity until people began to expose his tactics for what they are. That is a large part of what StopRush is doing.

            One thing I am not clear on. You said, "Rush is a clown, a buffoon and a moron. That is what we should have called him from day one." I truly don't know anyone who is actively opposing him who doesn't publicly take that exact position, and I don't know of anyone who has taken it belatedly, so I am not sure what you are arguing.

            The world is a den of thieves and night is falling. -Ingmar Bergman

            by Pirogue on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 10:49:13 PM PDT

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            •  he preaches to his choir (0+ / 0-)

              he is not swaying swing voters with his bullshit he is feeding the right wingers who think they are victims of liberals their red meat and all the truth telling by our side is not going to change anything. We have right wingers and they seek out cho chambers that justify their already held beliefs. He escalates shit because it gets people to react, if we stopped reacting he'd be a marginalized moron like Alex Jones.

              I sing praises in the church of nonsense, but in my heart I'm still an atheist, demanding sense of all things.

              by jbou on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 10:55:48 PM PDT

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              •  Granted he is preaching to the choir (1+ / 0-)
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                and very few of his confirmed followers will be swayed by the efforts of groups like StopRush. But somewhere on the political spectrum there are young people reaching the age of political awareness who can be dissuaded from joining his coterie if they are introduced to the voice of reason and if he is exposed as the polarizing buffoon we all agree he is. It also does no damage to the liberal cause when his antics are tied to the leadership of the Republican party.

                You do make some interesting points and I think a reasonable person might well find your arguments more persuasive than the ones I am making, but in the end I think that Rush Limbaugh is a corrosive influence on American political life and needs to be actively and vigorously opposed and we need to show the corruption of reason that he epitomizes as one of the lumbering giants of right wing politics.

                The world is a den of thieves and night is falling. -Ingmar Bergman

                by Pirogue on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 11:54:08 PM PDT

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                •  he is not a... (0+ / 0-)

                  corrosive influence on American political life. Stop elevating him. It's maddening to watch people get all riled up this guy that feeds off the rage you give him. He needs you in order for him to succeed.

                  I sing praises in the church of nonsense, but in my heart I'm still an atheist, demanding sense of all things.

                  by jbou on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 11:59:49 PM PDT

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                  •  Are you saying he has no influence, (1+ / 0-)
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                    or minimal influence on the political course of the U.S.? Or if he does have influence that it is not corrosive? If either of these expresses your belief I have to take strong issue with you. Republican politicians quake when he comes into a room because they understand he can swing the vote in a primary. If that's not influence then it is hard to know exactly what is. If you say that his influence is waning, then that might well be true, but it can also be said that it is one wane because of the efforts of groups like StopRush.

                    But  I don't think you mean that he lacks influence, or that this influence is not corrosive. What I think you mean is that  if we ignored him he will go away. Again, I respect your right to hold such a belief, but absent any evidence more than a declaration on your part, I find it a position that is difficult to accept. I think you have too much faith in his listenership. I personally don't think it is a reasonable expectation that  ignoring him would cause them to suddenly come to the realization that he was a lunatic. I think what would happen is that absent a reasoned opposition his influence would increase.

                    I am wondering if your logic extends to the whole parade of clowns out there leading the parade in conservative politics. Should we likewise ignore Beck, Hannity, O'Reily, et al?

                    BTW, I don't think that Limbaugh is a moron. I think instead he is a person who consciously says things that appeal to the morons who constitute his following. It has proven amazingly lucrative.

                    The world is a den of thieves and night is falling. -Ingmar Bergman

                    by Pirogue on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 08:54:09 AM PDT

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