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  •  Putin just changed the Calculus (4+ / 0-)
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    for Political capital when he said "Russia Will Assist Syria, if attacked. The market dropped 140 points but seem to be trying to recover now. I guess the idea of no employment growth means bad news is good news since the Fed won't taper.

    “ Success has a great tendency to conceal and throw a veil over the evil of men. ” — Demosthenes

    by Dburn on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 07:24:55 AM PDT

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    •  Depends what "assist" means. (7+ / 0-)

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      by TomP on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 08:00:32 AM PDT

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      •  It means Putin has military assets and people (2+ / 0-)
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        in a war zone. As IE says, this is a very high risk game of chicken.

        Once the missiles start to fly and the drones start to shoot, it doesn't take much for a Syrian ground to air missile to knock to hit a drone and then everyone watches as it spirals out of control into a Russian ship.  

        If it's a big drone full of petrol and explosives and falls in the wrong area of the ship and many Russians die, it's then becomes a cluster fuck of massive proportions because no one is going to look at their comrades burning and not shoot back.

        Obama and his advisers badly miscalculated this. The only hope is; we don't shoot.

        I have to admit I am very surprised that you are defending this. Do you want this war or is this a partisan defense?

        “ Success has a great tendency to conceal and throw a veil over the evil of men. ” — Demosthenes

        by Dburn on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 09:26:34 AM PDT

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    •  Ha! This does not surprise me in the least. (0+ / 0-)

      It is precisely what I've been saying Putin's position would be. It's a very dangerous game of "chicken" they are playing. Putin is saying "I double-dog-dare you. Anyone willing to bet who's going to blink first? As for what "assist" means, expect tit-for-tat. We bomb a military installation, Russia bombs a rebel stronghold, and so it will go. It will get very ugly very fast.

      "Some folks rob you with a six-gun, some rob you with a fountain pen." - Woody Guthrie

      by Involuntary Exile on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 09:15:00 AM PDT

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      •  That would surprise me. (0+ / 0-)

        But it is more plausible than attacking a USN ship.

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        by TomP on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 09:41:10 AM PDT

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        •  Agree (1+ / 0-)
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          Besides, the Russian navy is at least a generation behind the US Navy.  If one Russian missile is fired toward a US ship, the whole Russian task force would be taken down before they knew what hit them.

          Maybe, if we kill Assad's side, and the Russians kill the rebels, then eventually, they'll all run out of "assets", and peace will breakout?

        •  You know any Russians? (0+ / 0-)

          I do, and if they are to be believed, Putin would have wide support at home in a game of tit-for-tat. Don't underestimate Putin's self-confidence or his popularity with his people. He is wily, he is clever, he is ruthless, and his people like that about him. That's what I hear from my Russian friends, anyway. Let's ask some of the Russians who frequent this site what they are hearing from the folks back home and reading in Russian social media.

          "Some folks rob you with a six-gun, some rob you with a fountain pen." - Woody Guthrie

          by Involuntary Exile on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 02:24:45 PM PDT

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