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  •  Flattered, thank you....! (10+ / 0-)

    I would be more involved... but... well, I'll just ask...

    Being #6, maybe you can answer this for me... I kind of got the impression that Kos made a decision... prolly a good one... that officially DKos would err on the side attributing photos and copyright...

    While laws seem to allow photoshop "collagers", such as myself, lots of rights regarding use of photo media in satire, it felt to me that the responsibilities and risks were completely put on the artist over the last few years... it's  a lot harder to post pics here...

    Seems also that many of those in gvt/power are a lot more willing to pull the trigger on law suits to silence artists, and I can't afford anything like that...

    I love messing with photos, but I've felt it was more off limits... and I've just tried to re-invent my presence.

    I guess my question is, am I right?

    Thanks, MB, and fair warning... be ready for Sept 19th... ;)


    "Generosity, Ethics, Patience, Effort, Concentration, and Wisdom"

    by Dood Abides on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 10:39:29 PM PDT

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    •  As someone who has testified in about 30... (10+ / 0-)

      ...copyright infringement cases on the side against the infringers for the Los Angeles Times when I was there  (we never lost a case), you can always take the approach that you will follow the "cease and desist" letter if you get one and just remove the photo when they ask.

      A word of advice: Do not post Corbis, Getty or AP photos. They can be tough on infringers. The latter two piss me off because they are always taking press "pool" shots that are meant for everybody's use and claiming them as their own (q.v. the Zimmerman trial).

      But, you know, there are a lot of great photos on Flickr that the photographers are happy for you to use if you just give them credit. I do this all the time. Their photos get seen by a bigger audience than their families and you get a shot of Ted Cruz at some conference. Screenshots from CSPAN videos and other venues are okay too.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 11:18:47 PM PDT

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      •  Bad grammar in that first sentence, sorry. n/t (6+ / 0-)

        Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

        by Meteor Blades on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 11:19:24 PM PDT

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        •  Thanks for the answer! (4+ / 0-)
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          JeffW, Pam from Calif, peacestpete, Trix

          I thought my perceptions were right and DKos had been tightening up...

          Thanks also for the suggestions, but they don't work very well for me... The little time that I have, I use to mash up the images... the fun part for me is just Googling through the image detritus of the internet, and, as George Carlin put it, "Nailing two things together that have never been nailed together before"... I also dearly love "adjusting" iconic/propagandistic images to turn them on ear as quickly as possible, in the hopes of defusing them... the Bush years were so much fun....

          I simply don't have the time to try to track down permissions... and by the time you do, your stuff is internet road-kill... I'm envious of the folks that do this stuff for Stewart and Colbert, and jealous because I know I could do it much better... I think they probably could , too, but they're saddled with doing it right...

          Thanks for the suggestions about screen captures... that has some possibilities.

          I'll prolly continue my self imposed "cease and desist" just to keep Daily Kos out of trouble... I've always told everyone to feel free to reuse anything I've done, no credits necessary... There is nothing like the feeling of seeing a US senator get into trouble over an image you've done... and have it credited to somebody else!  I do miss that...;)


          "Generosity, Ethics, Patience, Effort, Concentration, and Wisdom"

          by Dood Abides on Sun Sep 08, 2013 at 03:44:15 AM PDT

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      •  are these press "pool" shots still photos to begin (1+ / 0-)
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        with or a frame of a pool video?

        I often wonder if it's an infringement to cut out one frame of a pool video and post it as a still photo online. I think I am not allowed to convert a short video clip out of a longer pool feed and post it in a diary. We have contracts with ABC, CBS, CNN and Reuters and
        AP and get all the pool feeds we decide to take in, as well as their finished news clips. It wouldn't be difficult to convert them for online usage, but I am not allowed to do that.

        The other way around we can't just use a you tube video and incorporate the footage in our own broadcast news pieces without checking the copyright. It's done sometimes out of urgency and desperation and often it goes unnoticed, but we had also to pay quite a bit of penalties, when we once got caught (and some very stern lectures from headquarters to NOT do this EVER again). Some producers and correspondents just are too "eager" to make a "good" news clip and when just for some seconds the right image sequence is not available and we can find it only on you tube, there go the morals down the drain. It's rare, but it happens.

        Civil Men Are For Civil Rights

        by mimi on Sun Sep 08, 2013 at 08:35:33 PM PDT

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