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  •  Gaddafi wasn't exactly a sympathetic character (1+ / 0-)
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    to Muslim extremists, I guess.

    AQ sure does it with any US presence in the Gulf states and throughout the middle east. Maybe Libya is just too far from the Holy Land?  I dunno.  But they sure use the US presence and bombing (drones) in other countries as a recruiting tool.

    One of their main goals is to have the USA out of the middle east. They've bankrupted us trying to stay...

    "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

    by YucatanMan on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 01:14:49 AM PDT

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    •  Neither is Assad. (1+ / 0-)
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      See my comment below.

      "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

      by Lawrence on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 02:12:01 AM PDT

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      •  Qaddafi (0+ / 0-)

        Gave up his nuclear weapons program and a couple a years later his corpse was hauled out of a culvert.

        Surely, regional despots and dictators have taken note.  

        •  There's actually some doubt as to whether (2+ / 0-)
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          the Gaddafi Regime ever had the capability for a nuclear program or whether he just fooled Bush and Blair by using their WMD fear as a bargaining chip.

          As for chemical weapons, he never had a big program but he never gave it up completely either.  He still had mustard gas that was immediately deployable but never got deployed because NATO planes would strike anytime Regime forces tried to get near to the storage complex, ie. NATO had planes over the storage sites 24/7.

          That's the great irony with Libya and Iraq.  Dubya and Cheney made a big deal about WMD's, yet never found them in Iraq while Obama never used it as a tool of fear, yet wmd's were, indeed, recovered in Libya.

          "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

          by Lawrence on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 04:53:22 AM PDT

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          •  Libya's CW arsenal was very small (1+ / 0-)
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            Only 11 tons of mustard.

            To put that into perspective, the Germans used 170 tons of chlorine just in the First Battle of Ypres in World War One.

            •  Yes. (0+ / 0-)

              Gaddafi's chemical weapons program and stocks were tiny in comparison to that of the Assad Regime, that much is sure.

              "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

              by Lawrence on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 05:53:48 AM PDT

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              •  it should be noted that there are only 7 countries (1+ / 0-)
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                on the entire planet who have not yet joined the Chemical Weapons Convention outlawing the production of CW. Of those, five----Syria, Egypt, Israel, Myanmar and North Korea---have had a known or suspected CW capability, and two of those (Israel and Myanmar) have already signed the Convention (20 years ago) but have not yet ratified it.

                CW is on the way out.

                 

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